Posted on 03/04/2002 9:11:40 AM PST by one2many
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
An Eagle Scout who was mistaken for a bank robber and shot in the face by an FBI agent in Pasadena on Friday remained in serious but stable condition at Maryland Shock Trauma Center last night.
Joseph Charles Schultz, 20, was shot at close range about 6 p.m. Friday when FBI agents searching for a bank robbery suspect pulled over his girlfriend's car.
Schultz, who lives in the 7900 block of Seabreeze Drive in Orchard Beach in Anne Arundel County and works with fiber optics for a local medical company, has no connection to the bank robbery, officials said.
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In a completely unrelated issue, why is he dating a child?
As to dating a child; maybe she is almost 17; maybe that is for the young lady and her parents to decide. It certainly is not for me to do so.
What happened to the FBI we used to have so much respect for. Squantos, you and I were both working for New Mexico S.O.'s back in the day. Hell, we had great agents to work with back then. We also had some great Deputy U.S. Marshalls, Border Patrolmen, etc.
Say what you will about Hoover, but this is for certain, if this idiot had done this (shoot an innocent civilian, an Eagle Scout no less)in Hoover's time, he would have probably already eaten his own gun, for the good of the Bureau.
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I might be a heretic, but I think the FBI can be a very useful LE org. Their forensic capabilities are second to none and let's face it, we do need to have an interstate police organization.
However, they've screwed themselves royally. They're running around suburbia with weapons that I wouldn't have dreamed of pointing anywhere but downrange when I was at Ft. Benning.
This story, and their absurd and arrogant reaction to the backlash highlights the problem. They've gotten too far from investigatory police work, which is what they're good at.
They're engendering hatred, and it's their own damn fault. When you think about all the screwups, all the people they've hurt and all the scandals (from Chinagate to Russian spies) they're actually to the point where they're doing more harm than good. I don't say that half-assed, it's actually the truth if you think about it.
Our federal agencies are going paramilitary without the "military" part of the latin. Meaning, that when you're in the military you're accountable and professionalism is demanded. When you f**k up, the only answer should be:
Well said.........true sadly. Accountability sets a ethics and morality standard IMHO that the FiBi's think they are exempt from.
Stay Safe !
New thread is here
Some excerpts from the new story:
FBI fired as victim unbuckled, lawyer says Agents ordered man from car at gunpoint
By Gail Gibson and Laura Barnhardt
Sun Staff
Originally published March 5, 2002
Joseph Charles Schultz, the Anne Arundel County man shot Friday after being mistaken for a bank robbery suspect, was reaching to unfasten his seat belt to comply with an FBI agent's order when the agent opened fire, an attorney for Schultz's family said yesterday.
"They told him to get out of the car, and he was trying to comply with that," attorney Joseph C. Asensio said.
A single bullet from an M-14 assault rifle struck Schultz, 20, in the face, shattering his right cheek and jaw.
He remained in serious but stable condition yesterday at Maryland Shock Trauma Center in Baltimore, where relatives and his girlfriend, Krissy Harkum, 16, were at his bedside.
Schultz and Harkum, both of Pasadena, were returning home in her red Pontiac Grand Am after a shopping trip about 6 p.m. Friday when FBI agents in plain clothes and an unmarked car pulled the couple over on Fort Smallwood Road in Pasadena.
The agents were looking for (a suspect named) Blottenberger, who was wanted in connection with the Feb. 20 robbery of an Allfirst Bank branch and who was believed to be driving in a red sedan Friday.
Asensio, a Glen Burnie attorney, said yesterday that two agents carrying assault-style rifles approached the car that Harkum was driving and ordered her and Schultz to put their hands in the air.
After the couple complied, Asensio said, the agents ordered them to get out of the car.
Schultz was shot when he reached over to unbuckle his seat belt, said Asensio, who met with Schultz, Harkum and their families at the shock trauma center Sunday.
FBI officials have acknowledged that Schultz had no connection to the crime or to the suspect.
Special Agent Barry A. Maddox, a spokesman for the FBI's Baltimore field office, said yesterday that he could not comment on Asensio's version of events. Citing bureau policy, Maddox said he could not provide any details of the shooting investigation or names of the agents involved in the incident.
"It's an ongoing investigation, so we're very limited about what we can say about it," he said.
For the first time, however, the FBI indicated that the agent who fired the weapon Friday has been temporarily reassigned. "The agent involved in the shooting has been assigned to duties that will likely not involve armed confrontation," Maddox said.
A team of FBI investigators was dispatched from bureau headquarters in Washington over the weekend to investigate the shooting. The FBI's findings will be reviewed by the Justice Department's civil rights division, which could bring charges in the case.
Schultz, who is expected to recover, remained at the shock trauma center yesterday. He was attached to a ventilator, making it impossible for him to speak, and his face was covered by bandages. Asensio said that Schultz is conscious and able to communicate.
"He can nod his head. I spoke to him a little bit, and he can understand," Asensio said.
Schultz, an Eagle Scout, graduated from Northeast High School in Pasadena in 2000. Asensio said that Schultz was laid off in December from his most recent job, working with fiber optics at a local medical company.
As a result of Friday's shooting, Schultz had a shattered right cheekbone and jaw, as well as damage to his nasal passages, the attorney said. The bullet had lodged in his left cheek, and it was unclear whether or when doctors would try to remove it.
"There's certainly going to be some extensive reconstructive surgery that's needed," Asensio said.
Agents pulled Harkum from the car and threw her to the ground after the shooting, but she was not injured in the incident, Asensio said.
At the hospital, Harkum and Schultz's relatives declined to comment yesterday.
Asensio said: "Right now with regard to the family, they're just interested in finding the best medical treatment at the time and will go from there."
Sun staff writer Jackie Powder contributed to this article.
Because he could, Joe.
This crap goes on constantly, but usually they are able to demonize their victims sufficiently to get away with it.
Where is the outrage? - Why, even here on FR, are so many willing to run cover for these thugs?
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