Skip to comments.Fighting Whities Mascot Causes Stir
Posted on 03/16/2002 4:07:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2
DENVER (AP) - The idea started among some University of Northern Colorado students as a satirical commentary on a local high school's American Indian mascot.
The students named their intramural basketball team, made up of American Indians, Hispanics and whites, ``The Fighting Whities.'' They printed up jerseys saying ``Every thang's going to be all white,'' with a caricature of a middle-aged white man.
``The Fighting Whities,'' however, have taken on a life of their own.
More than 1,600 e-mails have flooded into the university in Greeley, north of Denver. Some say it's about time that a white person is made a mascot for a sport team. Others complain the idea as perpetuating yet another racial stereotype.
``It's obvious some of the people are taking it the way it's not supposed to be taken,'' said team member Jeff VanIwarden.
Team members have gotten phone calls from around the country and invitations to appear on television. They were mentioned by Jay Leno on the Tonight Show on Tuesday. The American Indian Movement has weighed in supporting the name.
The team chose the name after it couldn't persuade nearby Eaton High School to abandon its nickname, the Fightin' Reds, and the American Indian caricature on the team logo. The students say the logo is offensive.
The school superintendent denies the logo is derogatory and called the group's criticism insulting.
Some e-mails said the mascot image should be even more derogatory than a middle-aged white man with a tie.
``Some people online were saying that the mascot should be ... a fat guy with buckteeth kissing his sister,'' said Tom Crebbs of Oakland, Calif., who heard about the idea and started his own Web site selling spin-off shirts, hats and mugs.
Others, like Michael Gonsalves of New York, disagreed: ``If you are fighting against a perceived injustice, is the proper recourse to go out and do the very same thing?''
With all the publicity, the team plans on printing new T-shirts. VanIwarden said they will have a message condemning racial stereotypes to dissuade people from making light of the shirt.
On the Net:
The University of Northern Colorado: http://www.unco.edu
The American Indian Movement: http://www.aimovement.org
What these wonderful folks have done is point out the truth! There never was any injustice in these mascot names!
No one has ever, before this, selected a mascot to denigrate the mascot! When these folks tried to select a mascot to denigrate it, they found out that the class of people identified with the mascot liked it! This is great real-life sitcom!
Obviously. And couldn't the same be said about the very thing they're complaining about? I don't recall who sponsored the poll (Sports Illustrated?) but it was something like 80% of American Indians really didn't care about what a mascot was.
Only someone steeped in the climate of race/gender politics that current schools foster wouldn't have seen this coming. Caucasians are supposed to be as thin-skinned and obsessive as these grievance-nursing groups, and it just stuns this guy that it's a hoot instead.
does this mean they are going to print more of the "Classic" Fightin' Whities, or will this be a new and "Politically Corrected" version. Either way, I am sure these racial activists will be happy to take $$ for the shirts.
1500 orders x $20(shirt) = $30,000
"Demonstrating absurdity by being absurd."
Could you imagine, back in the pioneer days, someone getting upset and ready to take legal action because the name of something offended them?
Davie Crockett would be in big trouble with PETA. Custer would have been off the scale in political INcorrectness. The men defending the Alamo would have had to put down their weapons and look the other way while Santa Anna's men entered the country with their families and applied for welfare.
Political correctness is robbing us of our freedom very gradually so we won't notice it. It's like a block of cheese and they keep shaving off small slices of our freedom until it's all gone...one slice at a time and small enough to escape notice.
The liberals would like us to become a nation of door-mats and let people from other countries, including those who denounce us and openly express hatred toward us walk all over us. No pledge of allegance because it might offend one of them...the list goes on and on.
These students have been made really paranoid. They sound like losers that don't have anything better to do.
A single t-shirt is twenty dollars.
I wanted to get one until I saw what was actually printed on the back of the shirt.
"Go Fightin' Whites"
(I thought it would say "whities")
Then the spoiler:
"Fighting the use of Native American stereotypes"
I'll keep my twenty bucks
Info available here
Whitie, cracker, honky BUMP!
Ah, the refreshing smell of Capitalism.
I also played college football at Illinois Valley Community College in Oglesby, Illinois (two-year record: 21-3, with two Midwest Bowl championships). The team nickname was the Apaches. You never saw so much war paint, heard so many war cries or saw as many Mohawk haircuts, except perhaps in a John Wayne movie.
Both of these traditions have been pursued with the greatest reverence and respect for Native American traditions. There is nothing the slightest bit denigrating about it. As an American of Swiss heritage, I would be greatly honored if a college named its teams the "Fighting Swiss."
This year, the Apaches play their final games. In the fall, they will be named something else. I know it was just a community college, but we had an outstanding team. We had a junior college All-American both years -- one of them could bench press 450 pounds and the other looked and played like a young Lawrence Taylor -- and we always sent several players as transfers to Division I schools, such as Iowa, Ohio State, Nebraska and Northwestern.
I am bummed out, dudes.
The pressure at the University of Illinois to change its team name has also been intense, but they are standing up to it much better. More power to Chief Illiniwek. May his tribe increase and find many buffalo.
I like the Fighting Whities T-shirt better.
The PC crowd is just mad that their promotion of racial hatred blew up in their faces for a change.
Now thats offensive!
Hell, for that matter, I'm a native Murrican and you prob'ly are too.
I just ain't no aboriginal Murrican.
Now, I do know some African-Murricans. They're whiter than I am, and speak with a sorta British accent, but they was born in Africa, by golly.
... ``The Fighting Whities.'' They printed up jerseys saying ``Every thang's going to be all white,'' with a caricature of a middle-aged white man ...Is this supposed to offend me? to teach me a moral object lesson? All it does is make me laugh hysterically.
I'm sure some enterprising person will produce a batch of bootleg shirts. Since the graphic is all over the net, you could make iron-on transfers with special paper on an ink-jet printer
It's getting funny. They want to see the new cheerleader uniforms.
I'll add "paleface" and "gringo" to that bump.
Man, talk about getting something started. No one could justifiably say anything about the shirts, since they were printed and sold by another minority.
OTOH, nobody ever accused the NAALCP of embracing concepts such as logic, fairness, or balance ... or equality.
But that's not a Whitie...that's a REDneck!
(I'll take the Whities AND the points for a hundred.)
Like mascots were chosen as something to be ashamed of! Schools and teams choose mascots they can respect, admire, emulate. No insult or pejorative was ever intended - duh. More than 80% of Native Americans understand this and see no insult in traditional mascots. Just another hysterical lib non-issue.
There was an interesting program, I think it was Discovery Network, which proposed that the current Native Americans were not the first homo-sapiens to arrive in this hemisphere. Some archeologists have uncovered evidence that there were groups which preceded them (I think from Polynesia), and which were gradually slaughtered by the newer (i.e., our current) "Native Americans." Remnants of this original group fled farther and farther south, and the scientists found their genetic descendants down in Tierra del Fuego.
If true, this puts a damper on the Politically Correct depiction of the kind, peace-loving, gentle Native American tribes being wiped out by the EVIL Europeans.
The possibilities are limitless:
"The scape goats" (I know this one is already claimed by Funky Winkerbeam's team, but it fits)
"The whipping boys"
"The cross burners"
" The slavers"
"The good OL' boys" ("Good ol' girls")
" The Crackers"
" THe Honkies"
" The Red Necks"
" THe steadily employed"
" THe self sufficient"
" THe tax payers"
" The builders"
" The providers"
" The pacifists"
" The studiers"
" The doers"
" The apologists"
" The used"
" The pi$$ed on"
"The pi$$ed off"
" The lambs"
" The slaughtered"
" The providers"
"The walked on"
"The fed up"
"the mad as hell"
" THe ain't gonna take it no mores"
They are no more peace loving than any other group of homo sapiens. They WERE nearly wiped out by Europeans. That is fact. There is no need to counter the left's attempt at changing history by changing history to make it more comfortable to the right. The descendants of the perpetrators of the crimes are NOT responsible for the sins of their fathers, but changing history is ALWAYS wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.
There is evidence that whole tribes of native Americans in the Southwest were raided and slaughtered by tribes coming UP out of central America, too. History is HUGE and complicted, weaving a tapestry of fabulous intricacy. The more history we learn, the more clear the various patterns of the tapestry become.
Wow...I need more coffee.
Agreed. I went to the site you linked, clicked on 'Suggestions for a new product', and suggested 'Fighting Whities'.
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