Sing Sing guard gets year in jail for killing 5 kittens

News Radio 88 ^ | 3/22/02

[Aliska]

I agree with you. They should have said "excessive" money.

And I suppose I'm guilty. I spent too much money on my cat when she was sick but I would do it all over again.

At the pearly gates, I suppose I'll have to answer to why I didn't give it to some kid with no medical insurance.

I went without medical insurance for years. I trusted God and He provided. And I did have one year with massive medical expenses I had to pay myself.

Oops. I still owe some money for an emergency room bill from before I was insured. Better get on that. But the lady p***** me off at the collection agency. She would only take cash. Not my check or a cashier's check. And she was a real snot to boot.

No wonder I love my cats so much.

[Sangamon Kid]

Are you inferring the the Judeo-Christain legacy condones animal abuse because animals are not our equla in the eyes of God?

No, just that human life has more value to God than animal life does.

[Sangamon Kid]

Why would you assume those that believe animal cruelty should be criminalized are "inordinately affectionate towards animals? My apologies for not understanding your question the first time around.

My comment about "inordinate affection" was not meant as specific argument in this situation. I was just a general comment about the extremes, meaning that there are those who are cruel to animals and those who have inordinate affection, and then there is vast majority who have a balanced view of the relationships of humans and animals.

I probably confused the issue a bit by interjecting that comment, so I apologize.

[razorbak]

"I wish there was something about that in the Bible"

Proverbs 12:10 A righteous [man] regards the life of his animal, But the tender mercies of the wicked [are] cruel.

The groups who sought to stop cruelty to animals were founded and filled primarily with Christians in the early days. Darwinism provides no rationale whatsoever for treating animals well.

[CasearianDaoist]

Now we are in agreement.

[CasearianDaoist]

The Talmud, while ancillary to the Torah, is full of prohibitions against animal abuse.

[Sangamon Kid]

The knat isn't that far down from the log in this case. Life is life.

#3, I am not trying to put words into your mouth. The above post is what I based my point on. There is a whole world of difference between the gnat and the log, you failed to make that difference clear, hence my misunderstanding.

[Sangamon Kid]

By the way, how did you come up with your moniker?

[Sangamon Kid]

Well folks, I'm a little tired of talking about dead cats and sadistic jail guards. Can I go and watch some basketball? Adios!

[CasearianDaoist]

Good question! I have a good answer - one that I think you might find interesting and amusing. You will, however, have to wait until tomorrow as I need to go now.

[Aliska]

Thanks, raz. I didn't know that was there.

The English have real soft spots for animals. Is it a cultural thing? Darwin excluded, of course ;-).

Couple generations ago my family were farmers. They fed their animals before they fed themselves. But I was told my grandfather had a bad temper and used to get mad at his horse.

But my father taught me to love animals. We had some chickens in town for awhile til he had to kill them for us to eat. We never had any more chickens after that ;-). But I still eat chicken.

[Renatus]

Oh mY GOD!! What kind of monster would do such a horrible heartless cruel thing...especially in front of children!!?? That is unbelievable

How dare you call my dear departed mother, one of the greatest women that ever walked this earth, a monster. How anyone can get so upset over the killing of a few stupid cats is absolutely beyond me. My mother and dad taught us how to kill rabbits, squirrels, rats and mice and snakes and possums and chickens and geese and ducks and pigs and cockroaches and a whole bunch of things. They also taught us to love God and neighbor. That was a priority. She forbid us to kill robins and mockingbirds with our slingshots and bbguns but let us kill turtledoves. So from now on I would appreciate it if you would cease calling my mother a monster.

[#3Fan]

#3, I am not trying to put words into your mouth. The above post is what I based my point on. There is a whole world of difference between the gnat and the log, you failed to make that difference clear, hence my misunderstanding.

Relatively speaking, there's a world of difference between a kitten and a stone. You seem to be saying if it's not human, it's not worth worrying about, that crushing kittens isn't that much different than crushing stones. I think Matthew makes clear that there are infants, then there are kittens a little farther down, and then there are rocks way down at the bottom. Life is life.

[MaggieMay]

I want to appologize to this forum and Jim Robinson. You would have thought my sloppy facts were being discussed on a website like Salon. Tom and Jerry, was not the cartoon show that "I hate mices to pieces" came from. It was from the Pixie and Dixie cartoon show, and it was a quote from Jinx the cat.

[Conservative til I die]

What an ass you are. Most free-market lovers can tell the difference between living property like a pet and inanimate property like a toaster oven.

[Conservative til I die]

Just because abortion is legal does not make cruelty to animals right. I am pro-life btw.

[Conservative til I die]

Most prison guards are a step above felons. Like some guy who published a survival guide to prison on the net asked, what kind of a person voluntarily signs up for a job where you're surrounded by filthy, violent, deranged criminals, and spend half your time examining their rectums for contraband?

BTW, I'm no fringe libertarian who thinks all LEOs are pigs, but a hardcore law-n-order conservative.

[Conservative til I die]

My thought would have been to have the kittens removed from the cell, and at the least, just deposit them outside the wall of the prison. At the least. I wouldn't think its that hard a decision to make.

[Conservative til I die]

Yeah, restitution is the answer, my libertarian fringe friend! Since kids are technically property, in the care of their parents, let's run John O's kids over and have insurance compensate him. I figure a kid is worth at least 20 times a cat, but only 15 times a dog's worth.

In other news, John O is an idiot, and the Pope is Catholic.

[monkey]

Give me a break! Yeah, it might have been cruel, but to send the guy up for a year when thousands of baby killers get off scott free shows the pathetic moral climate of our society.

You are spot on (this coming from a vegan). The man's real crime was killing cute animals. I wonder if the judge has ever been to a slaughterhouse?