Posted on 03/22/2002 1:02:23 PM PST by Smile-n-Win
Pollster: Do you support reforming campaign finance?
John Doe: Why, sure.Pollster: Would you support restricting free speech?
John Doe: Of course not!
Obsessed as politicians are with polls, the one reliable way to prevent unconstitutional legislation from being enacted is to turn public sentiment against it. I would like to suggest a simple strategy for increasing public awareness that CFR is unconstitutional:
This is a strategy that has worked all too well for the Liberals. People now believe that the welfare state is something good, that killing your baby is OK, that it is normal for a sex blind couple to adopt and raise a child, and so on--things everyone would have recognized as absurd a couple of decades ago. This has happened because they've kept repeating their lies over and over again, accompanying them with words that sound like a serious argument to the superficial observer.
If the media kept telling us the sky was green rather than blue, many of our non-freeper friends would actually believe them after a sufficient number of repetitions.
The time has come to turn this weapon of the Liberals against them. Let's roll! Let's kill the unconstitutional CFR!
Statement by the President
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
March 20, 2002
Statement by the President
Like many Republicans and Democrats in the Congress, I support common-sense reforms to end abuses in our campaign finance system. The reforms passed today, while flawed in some areas, still improve the current system overall, and I will sign them into law.
The legislation makes some important progress on the timeliness of disclosure, individual contribution limits, and banning soft money from corporations and labor unions, but it does present some legitimate constitutional questions. I continue to believe the best reform is full and timely disclosure of campaign contributions.
Return to this article at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020320-21.html
The George W. Bush Lie
ABC News's This Week on January 23, 2000:
GEORGE F. WILL: I want to see if you agree with those who say it would be bad for the First Amendment? I know you're not a lawyer, you say that with some pride, but do you think a president, and we've got a lot of non-lawyer presidents, has a duty to make an independent judgment of what is and is not constitutional, and veto bills that, in his judgment, he thinks are unconstitutional?
GOV. BUSH: I do.
WILL: In which case, would you veto the McCain-Feingold bill, or the Shays-Meehan bill?
BUSH: That's an interesting question. I I yes I would.
Source
I'm not thrilled with this bill, but let's be accurate. It doesn't say you can't run issue ads... it says if those ads mention the name of a candidate during the 30 or 60 days prior to an election, they must be paid for with "hard" money.
Let them read what CFR says:
If you read about the rationale in the constitutions delineating the jurisdiction limits between the Feds, the states, the people and the three branches of government, we all perfectly understand that any piece of legislation which allows a party encroach another party's jurisdiction is illegal. Start with article 1 of the constitution and later how seperation of powers and checks and balances are to be managed.
Specificaly the bill imposes ludicrous limits on individuals and businesses from contributing to one party or another in paid ads specificaly. Read it for yourself, it is common knowledge that campaign finance reform imposes limits on individual contributions on speech BUT NOT ON DIRECT BRIBERY.
Since when had the state powers to control what one does with his or her pocket money aside from blatant cases of bribery and prostitution where money is specificaly used as a contract payment for a politician or a whore to give up his or her jurisdiction while he or her was voted or exists to exert such independent jurisdiction?
This campaign finance reform is a loophole for bribery for politicians. It does not go after corruption and illegal contracts in politics and politicans, it goes after individuals who make personal campaigns of their own, not the one bribing the bastards.
READ IT FOR YOURSELF. THEY WANT TO BAN FINANCIAL INFLUENCE. WHERE IN THE HELL DOES THE CONSTITUTION RECOGNIZES "INFLUENCE" AS A DE FACTO CONTRACT INVOLVING JURISDICTION VIOLATION AND EXPLOITATION? SO WHAT NOW? BLAME WOMEN AS PROSTITUTES IF THEY WILLINGLY TAKE A RIDE IN RICH MEN'S CARS HITTING ON THEM?
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO GET A FREAGING GRIP ON REALITY!!!
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51 posted on 3/22/02 12:40 PM Pacific by lavaroise
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If you are a one issue person, maybe it is worth wasting all this time on.
I certainly listen to Rush, but I also think for myself and just can't see what all the hysterics are about.
I really pay little attention to political lies excuse me advertisements.
Here is the letter.............
President George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington D.C. 20500
March 20, 2002
Dear Mr. President:
On behalf of the nearly one million members and supporters of the American Conservative Union, and the millions more represented by those groups who have co-signed this letter, we are writing to urge you to veto the ill-conceived and unconstitutional Campaign Finance "Reform" bill, passed by the House last month, and the U.S. Senate this afternoon.
As we have said all along, this is not about politics, but about principle.
It is a travesty that so many Members of Congress-on both sides of the aisle- seem to have either forgotten about or chose to intentionally ignore their oaths to "support and defend the Constitution" when they cast their votes on this legislation. It is, frankly, sad that such an affront to freedom has actually made it to the desk of the President of the United States.
Much of the debate over this legislation focused on which party will be helped or hurt by its various provisions, with very few commentators addressing the core questions of whether or not the sorts of restrictions on political speech envisioned by the bill's authors are either wise or Constitutional. We don't know which party will ultimately benefit or be hurt by this legislation and what's more, we don't care.
The bill making its way to your desk completely redefines political speech and outlaws or criminalizes speech that every American has always believed to be protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution. Looked at from our perspective, you are being asked to sign a bill that tells those who might want to criticize the actions of politicians to just shut up.
We understand fully the reasons why you have taken the position up to now that Congress could not count on a Presidential veto on this legislation and must therefore work to fashion something that is fair, effective and, yes, Constitutional. Well, Congress had its chance
and failed.
So now it's up to you!
You can pass the buck to the courts and hope that they will straighten out this mess. Or, you can veto it for what it is
. A bad bill that criminalizes political speech and deserves to be sent back from whence it came.
If there was ever a time to use the veto pen this is it. We urge you to veto this legislation.
If you can honestly say that you believe legislated restrictions on political speech is at the core of what our Founders wanted, by all means, sign the bill. But if you believe the proposed restrictions won't pass muster by a Supreme Court that actually believes in free speech, please, do everyone a favor by vetoing it.
Yours Sincerely,
David A. Keene
Chairman, American Conservative Union
(Many other signatures click HERE to see them.)
The problem is the "average voter" has no idea what the issues are until right before an election, which means they will get it from their local newspaper. This gives the press an enormous amount of power in it's ability to sway voters, all predicated by the newspapers political leanings.
Since we consider the radio spectrum to be a public resource, then I feel it is OK to regulate it in regards to the use of that spectrum. But like all things governmental, they stepped outside of the task and are in charge of too much.
Got to admit I was reporting my understanding. Because of this conversation I have looked up the bill and you are correct. Or, at least, it appears you are. The bill keeps refering to other pieces of the US Code which I have not looked up. It is a nightmare to figure exactly what is going on with this (and all other) bill.
One thing I always thought would be a good idea was to require a complete reading of every bill voted on. Make the bill be read in the chamber, and do not allow any other work while the reading is going on. This would make bills shorter, easier to understand, and allow for the passage of fewer of them.
The price one pays for allowing oneself to be used as an establishment puppet. You have to say what makes sense to fool the electorate and then you have to suffer the ignominy of the liar, fool, sell-out when you must do what you are told.
It is not surprising that the puppets being recruited to play the fool seem to be selected from the most intellectually challenged available.
I think it's much ado about nothing unusual. Most everything the Feds do is unconstitutional already. I think the outrage is laughable, to say the least. We're shocked, shocked! to find that unconstitutional laws are being passed here! Feds ignore Constitution, sun rises in the east. Film at eleven.
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