Ask the imam: Why can t the Jews and Muslims live together in peace?

Islam Q&A ^

[rebdov]

I didn't call for a religious war. You are misreading me completely. I was saying that if G-d insists that the nations must war prior to the revelation of Moshiach, so be it. Do not mix me with these people. Try and do a search on the many comments I have made on FR, and you will see that I have never called for a holy war, EVER. Although if the US does indeed aim to extirpate the evil ones from the world, I would call that a very HOLY WAR! Andjust so that you get to read this message I will also send it through Freepmail.

[Captain Shady]

Muslim Turks may have accepted some Jews after the reconquest of Spain from the Muslims (for their own benefit) but it didn't take too long for them to butcher millions of Christians living in Asia Minor and the Balkans for a thousand years.

Still hoping that Turkey lead the Islamic world into a new era of peace,prosperity, and religious liberty. Its going to be a tough job ,but someone has got to do it.

[Aliska]

Are you serious about ebay? Did 2 Pakistanis invent ebay while living under the social, economic and "religious" constraints of Pakistan or while living here? Besides, 2 Pakistanis don't a culture make.

My sister who is a specialist in middle eastern affairs told me about ebay. I believe it was here in the US. I tried and tried to search on Google and find out more about it and can't find anything about the history of ebay or its development. If I find out more, I'll try to let you know.

As to being stabbed in the back, I'm not going to worry about it. I don't even know any muslims.

The only muslim I ever knew or knew was a muslim who had the most beautiful coat I ever saw. It was white sheepskin. How I coveted that coat! Better mind my own sins, no?

[rebdov]

"First I was supposed to hate the Japanese. Then I was supposed to hate the Germans. Then I was supposed to hate the North Koreans. Then I was suppoosed to hate the Russians. Then I was supposed to hate the North Vietnamese and the Cubans . . . and the Central Americans . . . I'm tired of hating and fearing."

No,you were expected to recognize your enemy with your brain. Hate is from the heart. If your brain tells you that a person is coming to kill you, the brain may order the heart to hate him. The pacifist approach will not only get you killed but will endanger your neighbors too. If people are actively plotting to kill us, I want our government to act. You have terribly confused emotion with intellect. Very dangerous.

If you want to ignore Islam that is fine for yourself, but let others reveal the truth. Look at today's AP pictures from Lebanon. A mother smiling as she took a knife to the head of her 3 year old to bleed him. That is Islam. Blood is a major feature of their belief.

[Aliska]

Well, then I am ignorant. I am working from memory of things I've read over the years.

They have beautiful architecture. Wasn't the Alhambra built by muslims? I saw a movie where there was an old house in the south built like the Alhambra. It had fallen into disrepair but was a gorgeous house. Can't remember the name of the movie. Can't remember the name of Salman Rushdie's book, either.

[crystalk]

In fire and in blood will come the Redemption, and the Meshiyakh.

[crystalk]

bite your politically correct tongue

[Aliska]

Christians used to be pretty hung up over blood, too. Read St. Catherin of Sienna. It's a big part of the Christian religion although in an entirely different context.

Just about everybody missed my point. If a Muslim read the bible, they could find things objectionable. What do they do when they get to the part where Jesus says if your right hand offends you to cut it off? Most of us know not to take that literally.

We went round and round on another discussion group where some Jews wanted the bible changed to expunge references to its portrayal of Jews in a negative light. Naturally I would object to that but also would I object to using the bible as an excuse to hate Jews. Likewise will I not use their Koran as an excuse to hate them.

[crystalk]

Remember the Rabbi in the Zohar who said, Let the Meshiyakh come, but let me not live to see it.

Blessed is he who will live to see those days, but blessed is he who shall NOT live to see those days.

And rabbi S said to his son rabbi E, the first sign of Messiah shall be as when two travelers have crossed a long desert. What is the first sign they will see that they have crossed it, and are nearing a City?--Why, it is a cemetery, the great fields of tombs, on the edge of the city...

Dan 12: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great angel-prince (SAR) that stands for the children of they people (Israel). And there shall be a time of trouble such as there has never been, not since there WAS a nation.

[RightOnline]

OK, so the guy's a drooling idiot...........but he's a dangerous drooling idiot. It is he and his murderous, bloodthirsty ilk that are hell-bent (and Hell-sent, I submit) on killing all Jews and subjugating (or worse) all Christians.

The lines are clearly drawn. War with Christians and Jews arrayed against the Muslim world is unavoidable. We're just seeing the barest beginnings of it now.........but mark my words, that is EXACTLY what this "war on terrorism" will evolve into. It'll be ugly, but maybe.......just maybe.......Islam will finally be relegated to the dustbin of history where it belongs.

[tictoc]

In fire and in blood will come the Redemption, and the Meshiyakh.

With respect, neither you nor I are the arbiter of whether or not the coming of the Messiah is nigh.

Zionism as defined by Theodor Herzl is religiously neutral.

[rebdov]

Not only the Koran, listen to their preachers. Translations are available. You will not find Rabbis or Priests calling for the faithful to kill the non-believers, but their Imams do every Friday. Read the translations. They aren't hiding their beliefs, why should you hide from them? The only place where they obfuscate is in the US because they want to manipulate the fools and use our laws to our detriment.

[M Kehoe]

The rocks aren't cooperating and the Arabs keep getting their butts handed to them.

LOL!

5.56mm

[crystalk]

how you mean, WILL evolve? It already HAS!

[knighthawk]

Look here:

Crusade Propaganda: The abuse of Christianity’s holy wars.

[rebdov]

"arbiter"???

I claimed I was controlling G-d's will? Something is rather strange in your thought process? The only affirmitave action that I think people can do to hasten the coming of Moshiach is to beg G-d for his coming, encourage others to turn their hearts to G-d, and to adhere to the laws of the Torah in a scupulous manner.

[crystalk]

Herzl was both anti-religious, marxist, and an atheist.

We are way, way, beyond him. The Bible makes clear that the bloody Time of Trouble will leave only one-third of the world's previous population alive, and

that Tribulation is to last (some say) seven years...and some say a Generation...

and only then does Messiah come and usher in the fulness of redemption (geulah shelemah)...

[crystalk]

MR SHARON, TEAR DOWN THOSE MOSQUES!

[knighthawk]

Redbov is right. But not only the jihadies are using the koran to justify their crimes, also mohammed the prophet did. Read the hadith and info on this site:

mohammed and his personal enemies
islam and terrorism

[rdb3]

On, please.

Thanx.