Posted on 03/24/2002 1:47:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
No, they have it right in the article. An Associate Professor has tenure. A full Professor is an additional promotion. Some Universities also have gradations of full Professor, others don't.
The University of Wisconsin used to be an excellent eduacational institution. Since the radicals that tried to burn it down in the 60's took over its hallowed halls, it has become nothing but a Marxist Think Tank, the home of political correctness and a joke.
Tnure should ALSO be thrown out.
Oh no! The professor needs to spread the word to our children. He needs to plant seeds of our destruction. The attack on the WTC has opened the eyes of a lot of Americans unaware, or unconcerned, with the curriculum or the inflitration of our education system by subversive thought. Maybe they'll also take a critical look at media and government "servants" and see the frightening trend.
However, this case is an example of the problems that arise with 'tax-funded education' -- one cannot discriminate against repugnant views, since "all" views must be included in a "public" institution.
Let's abolish public ed -- or leave the guy alone. If he's an indiot but doing his job, there is not much that can be done, here.
I was recently terminated at a community college in Los Angeles, for failing to join the Teacher's Union. Had done nothing wrong, have a Ph.D., several publications. Students loved my classes, & I helped them get $1,000's of dollars of scholarships to complete their educations. I was on several committees on campus, had the Faculty Senate president in my corner. However, I've learned that Academic Freedom is a very limited and selectively applied concept. It's used rather blatantly as a political tool, on most campuses out here in California. I teach economics and am a libertarian. But I kept my personal views to myself, since I am teaching a social SCIENCE, not running for office. Unfortunately, most of my colleagues have no intention of teaching the science of their field -- they view their classroom job as an opportunity to lobbying for the Democrat party, getting the students to volunteer for Democrat campaigns and so forth, for "extra credit" in a Poli Sci class. That's the way academia is nowadays, and there's not a darned thing you can do about it, aside from urging privatization of the whole higher ed system. I am sure the taxpayers of California would love to hear about the required 'volunteerism' for Democrat campaigns in State college Political Science classes, courtesy of their tax money, and plan to write a book when this is all over. I go to arbitration to get my job back this spring - wish me luck.
P.S. Teacher's Unions and Tenure must go. Collective bargaining is for cowards and communists, and Tenure is greedy protectionism of society's Elite. It is truly nauseating to have grown, highly educated adults 'demanding' job security. Teachers are not lettuce pickers, they are (presumably) the society's most educated and most skilled. If they can't cut it as teachers, they will find employment elsewhere, with their considerable educations. If we can't have cut throat competition among educators, our most highly trained, then -- in what industrial or labor sector CAN we have it? Watching some of my colleagues wax poetic and mewl like little kittens about how glad they are to be protected by Tenure is pretty vile. No wonder the average businessperson, forking over thousands to support school systems and struggling without the safety net of job Tenure to provide for his family in a volitile marketplace, has nothing for contempt for these sheltered, pampered soccer-mom socialists. It's embarrassing to have to work with this infantile, sheltered crew on a daily basis. Don't shed tears for them -- SIDE WITH THE CUSTOMERS, the Students. Abolish Tenure - NOW.
volitile = volatile,
California = the armpit of higher education.
What does he think we've been getting since the 1960's?
--Boris
I had a Communist professor when I took American government in college, I got an A and I was already pretty conservative because I was working my way through college. Probably the ones who are upfront and honest about their philosophies are better than the ones who claim to be something different.
Correction: Pol Pot.
--Boris
Exactly, they're sheltered and that gives them protection from being removed.
This is a very healthy environment for one point of view to gain a long term foothold.
Maybe it's time you became an advocate for your point of view while there's still time.
That's very true ---most of the kids going to these types of colleges aren't paying their own way. I think what's far worse than a communist/marxist professor are the feminists and multiculturalists in the colleges, what they teach is even worse.
Certain areas in Texas at least are extremely liberal --I know because I live in one of those very liberal areas where it seems most people believe in government redistribution plans and are quite marxist. Tony Sanchez has big support in many areas of Texas because he is basically a marxist and his drug money laundering for the Mexican cartels seems not to be a problem for him either.
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