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Add to this the fact that Hitler removed the Bibles in all churches within the Reich and replaced them with Mein Kampf (in 1936, I believe) and those who wish to connect the dots between Christianity and Naziism have a very flimsy case indeed.
1 posted on 03/25/2002 6:29:51 AM PST by Skooz
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Oh, and also the fact that Hitler called the Apostle Paul "the most dangerous Jew."
2 posted on 03/25/2002 6:33:14 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Skooz
those who wish to connect the dots between Christianity and Naziism have a very flimsy case indeed.

Not only do they have a flimsy case, but they are idiots and slime balls, kind of like most democrats.

3 posted on 03/25/2002 6:36:42 AM PST by Mark17
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It included an intention to "exterminate irrevocably . . . the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800."

In 800 the Germans had been Christian for closing on 500 years. The only thing that 800 is famous for is the crowning of Karl der Gross as Roman Emperor. How this correlates to the introduction of Christianity in that year is a great mystery.

6 posted on 03/25/2002 6:51:21 AM PST by Restorer
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For the record, were all of those that did the killing, Nazis, and thus non-christians? Where is the cutoff level for non-christians or were all of the millions of Germans caught up in that sad affair atheists???
10 posted on 03/25/2002 7:01:43 AM PST by cynicom
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A good book to read to prove that nazis were anything BUT nazi's.. Trevor Revenscroff The Spear of Destiny. It Chronicles how the nazi party was founded on black magic and the principles of Darkness.. To get your mind blown away and see how evil The Nazis and Hitler actually were.It is a book well worth reading... Another thing Hitler was a huge Fan Of Richard Wagners operas but in Wagners last opera,Parsifal it showed the sacrifice of Christ.. And Hitler hated it cause it showed a lack of will to live by Christ. So Hitler banned Parsifal.. So if you are interested find the book. 173rd son.
16 posted on 03/25/2002 7:20:41 AM PST by daapfe
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A good book to read to prove that nazis were anything BUT nazi's.. Trevor Revenscroff The Spear of Destiny. It Chronicles how the nazi party was founded on black magic and the principles of Darkness.. To get your mind blown away and see how evil The Nazis and Hitler actually were.It is a book well worth reading... Another thing Hitler was a huge Fan Of Richard Wagners operas but in Wagners last opera,Parsifal it showed the sacrifice of Christ.. And Hitler hated it cause it showed a lack of will to live by Christ. So Hitler banned Parsifal.. So if you are interested find the book. 173rd son.
17 posted on 03/25/2002 7:21:44 AM PST by daapfe
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At one presidential prayer breakfast, Bill Clinton offered the opinion that "Adolf Hitler preached a perverted form of Christianity."

Today, the NYT's Editorial Page opined as follows:

The nation may never again see a president with Bill Clinton's natural political talents, his instinctive grasp of policy and his breadth of understanding of governmental issues.

Clinton's Nazi slur of Christianity show that his "instinctive grasp" and "breadth of understanding" are terribly overrated.

19 posted on 03/25/2002 7:22:13 AM PST by mondonico
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“The Third Reich” means third reign of the Holy Roman Empire. Nazism is a Catholic thing.
23 posted on 03/25/2002 7:37:22 AM PST by ibme
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For what it's worth, Dr. Gene Scott has said many times that Hitler was a member of the Catholic Church and was never excommmunicated.
25 posted on 03/25/2002 7:40:54 AM PST by Biblebelter
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"The Nazis Weren't Christians."

No sh*t, Sherlock!

Clue #1...Arrested and persecuted Christian leaders.

Clue #2...Nazis encouraged revival of Teutonic supernatural symbolism.

Clue #3...No Bingo games at Party rallies....

This silly notion hardly merits rebuttal. If it wasn't for the dirt-dumb historical cluelessness cultivated by American public education it would scarcely be necessary to even discuss this farcical issue.

32 posted on 03/25/2002 8:07:09 AM PST by headsonpikes
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Did anti-Jewish sentiment among Christians make them less sensitive, or even indifferent, to the persecutions . . . ?"

This is the common view among the liberal elite who control the educational apparatus in this country, and it is completely bogus when exposed to the light of any objective analysis. And yet, the myth of Christian complicity in the Holocaust remains accepted history to this day.

The reason is that it is the foundation upon which we in the west should never question Israeli policy, or the dollars that flow to Israel from the US. We are responsible for the Holocaust, don't you know, we OWE it to them. If you question Israeli policies or oppose the massive foreign aid to Israel, you are as guilty as the Nazis.

This is the message from America's media and Americans have bought it hook, line and sinker.

33 posted on 03/25/2002 8:17:04 AM PST by massadvj
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bump...
50 posted on 03/25/2002 9:42:42 AM PST by VOA
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I think of nazism as a humanistic philosophy.
51 posted on 03/25/2002 9:46:40 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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One could not be a Nazi and a Christian. Nazis were big on Jewish conspiracy theories, and claimed Christianity to be the biggest Jewish conspiracy of them all. But this doesn't stop the leftists from making the claim that they were Christian
99 posted on 03/25/2002 6:36:34 PM PST by Michael2001
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>The Jews gather on Thursday for Passover, celebrating the Exodus from slavery as the angel of death skipped Jewish homes during Egypt's tenth plague, the killing of the firstborn.

Close but no cigar. Passover celebrates "... celebrating the Exodus from slavery ... death skipped Israelite homes..." There were no Jews for another ~1500 years. All Jews are Israelites, but only a small percentage of Israelites are Jews.

Passover is a legitimate holiday for many Christians, but few Christians seem to understand Biblical history. (Click my Profile for details.)

112 posted on 03/26/2002 12:14:06 PM PST by LostTribe
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bump
119 posted on 03/28/2002 7:46:04 AM PST by VOA
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I think some issues have gotten mixed up on this thread. Why Hitler wanted to destroy the Jews, why Germans participated in it and tolerated it, and whether Christianity is innately anti-Semitic are different questions.

1. Hitler's lust to destroy the Jews was not based on religion. What it was based on is really pretty mysterious; there is a black hole at the bottom of the Hitler phenomenon that only the Last Judge is ever going to penetrate. See Ron Rosenbaum's impressive book, Explaining Hitler : The Search for the Origins of His Evil . Though I would probably be considered too "liberal" by some posters here (in my own mainline denomination I'm a raving conservative), I think that the most likely explanation is that he sold his shrivelled soul to Satan. And I mean that pretty literally.

2. Traditional Christian anti-Judaism did not call for the murder of Jews, though it sometimes led to it when mixed with "urban legend" blood libels and crowd hysteria (sometimes manipulated by rulers who wanted to get rid of their creditors). Most Christian teachers believed that the Jews would turn to Christ before the Last Day, so that destroying the Jews would be against God's plan.

3. Nevertheless, the tradition that the Jews having rejected and killed the Messiah, were rejected by God in turn, contributed to mistreatment of Jews in two ways:

(a) It gave the Jews an almost completely negative profile, thus encouraging Christians to dislike and despise them;

(b) It taught Christians that until the Last Times the Jews would suffer under God's constant punishment. It was this latter belief, I think, that made German Christians so passive in the face of genocide: they had been taught to see Jewish suffering as normal and natural.

4. The Christianity of many Protestant Germans in the '30's was pretty attenuated. Widespread inroads of liberal theology and a long history of state domination of the Protestant Churches had made their mark. Just before WWI, the big issue in German Protestantism was whether the Apostles Creed should be eliminated from worship, since "nobody believes that virgin birth and bodily resurrection stuff anymore."

5. To account for German acquiescence and willing collaboration in the destruction of Jews, you have to consider the years of unchallenged anti-Semitic propaganda the Nazis bombarded them with after '33. Exactly the pattern Arafat has followed in the PA: take power by appealing to all sorts of frustrations and fears, then control the media and turn the population into a murdering horde by continuous indoctrination. The churches were a weak and uncertain influence in comparison, by and large.

6. The rejectionist view of Judaism prevalent for a long time in the Christian tradition is now widely seen even by thoroughly traditional Christians to have been contrary to Scripture. Evangelical Christian Zionists are not the only Christians who have rethought this. "Mainliners" in the tradition of the Swiss Protestant theologian Karl Barth have too. The present-day anti-Jewish forces in Christianity are the out-and-out liberals.

7. Hitler saw more clearly than Christians mostly did that Christianity and Judaism are inextricably linked. His racial hatred of Jews spilled over to a hatred of the Jewish blight of Christianity. Christians have reason to be abashed that an enemy of God saw this before we did.

129 posted on 03/28/2002 9:15:31 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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It is the purpose, however, to stress one point that seldom receives due emphasis. To wit, the Nazi leaders and ideologues were not Christians. They were pagan, some quite explicitly. For the rest, the ancient myths celebrated in Wagner became a pillar of their doctrine of Teutonic racial superiority.

But a huge number of the ordinary Nazis, the ones who just went along with the Pogrom, and tossed the Jews into the ovens, were Christians. The ones who planned it all might have been Pagans, but all Christians were not always the good guys in history...

136 posted on 03/28/2002 10:46:41 AM PST by xm177e2
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