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Tyranny: The Threshold Has Already Been Crossed
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 25 March 2002 | Jerry Jones

Posted on 03/25/2002 11:38:23 AM PST by 45Auto

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To: antidemocommie

Ideologues busy in the bilge tank pursuing their happiness

61 posted on 03/25/2002 4:55:00 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Why are you so afraid to look at what is going wrong in our country? The author of the above article is wrong????

Knee-jerk reactions and suggestions of communism is really dumb. It suggests that you cannot openly discuss issues without fearmongering.

Why would we want to alter our system of government for some failed system of tyranny like socialism, communism, or any other failed -ism?

What we must do is put government back under the authority of the US Consitution. We know that works beautifully. It has for over 200 years.

62 posted on 03/25/2002 4:59:21 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
Well, when you use the hoary old "class struggle" rhetoric that went out of style when Stalin checked out, don't be surprised if people notice and react to it.
63 posted on 03/25/2002 5:02:19 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: 45Auto
Add to these the abuses by agents of the state under the guise of CPS/DHS/DYCF or whatever child protection service you have in your state. The jackals routinely kidnap children from innocent parents and the Federal Government subsidizes them - even gives them a bonus every time the successfully several parental rights and adopt the children out.

I'm quickly becoming an expert on this subject because I've had to help relatives keep their children or get them returned to them after YEARS in state custody though the parents were found innocent.

Tyranny is here - and it isn't just eh FedGov. Your state can swoop down at any time and steal your children. They do not follow due process, you don't get a jury, hearsay and other crap is admissable in juvenile/family court, etc. You are, without question, guilty until proven innocent and then you still might not get your children back.

Does this p*** you off like it does me? Go to The American Family Advocacy Center and find out more. I highly recommend you purchase the book called Profane Justice: A Comprehensive Guide to Asserting Your Parental Rights and read it now, before the jackals come for your kids. There are certain precautions you need to have in place ahead of time to hold off the agents of the state who want to adbuct your children under color of law.

64 posted on 03/25/2002 5:07:09 PM PST by Spiff
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To: antidemocommie

"Anyone know when we get to elect our next taskmaster?"

65 posted on 03/25/2002 5:11:06 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Poohbah
The Cultural Jihad School of Government


66 posted on 03/25/2002 5:15:23 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie Well, when you use the hoary old "class struggle" rhetoric that went out of style when Stalin checked out, don't be surprised if people notice and react to it. 63 posted on 3/25/02 6:02 PM Pacific by Poohbah

Thats why God gave us eyes so we could read before making a fool of ourselves.

67 posted on 03/25/2002 5:17:07 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: Spiff
Does this p*** you off like it does me? Go to The American Family Advocacy Center and find out more. I highly recommend you purchase the book called Profane Justice: A Comprehensive Guide to Asserting Your Parental Rights and read it now, before the jackals come for your kids. There are certain precautions you need to have in place ahead of time to hold off the agents of the state who want to adbuct your children under color of law. 64 posted on 3/25/02 6:07 PM Pacific by Spiff

Yes, it makes me angry because we are the greatest country on earth, and this crap should not be happening here. Government corruption is something that goes on in other countries, not here.

But, that is changing, isnt it? As you can see, we are not allowed to question what our govenment is doing according to cultrual jihad.

But, Conservative leaders are saying the same things you and I are. They are becoming disgusted with our elected leaders . Did you happen to hear Rush Limbaugh cut GW a new one today? Well he sure did. Rush is very upset that GW will sign his name to the CFR bill that is clearly going to limit the free speech of Americans. But, principles don't mean much anymore. Hell, we should all just stop all of this questioning and give in. We might get some government cheese and butter if we do.

68 posted on 03/25/2002 5:22:04 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie

"Another tropical port of call for all the beautiful and well-fed upper classes partying away in the higher decks,
and here I am pursuing my unhappiness without the aide of body deodorant!"

69 posted on 03/25/2002 5:22:43 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: antidemocommie
It's also why He interconnected your brain and your fingers--so that you'd notice you were sounding like one of the last Marxist-Leninist True Believers BEFORE you mashed "Post Reply."
70 posted on 03/25/2002 5:22:50 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: OWK
>Felons?
You betcha. Self defense is a right. Convicted felons who have served their terms, are equally entitled to arms for their defense. Anyone who cannot be trusted with arms for his own defense, should not be out of prison to begin with.

I read somewhere (unverified), that after 5 years post-release, without any additional offenses, New Zealand allows ex-cons to bear arms again. In the general case, at least for those for whom firearms weren't part of a previous offense (and maybe one has to look at some of those cases), this does not seem unreasonable. (I would prefer to see such a delay in order to get past the period of readjustment to being in society again, however long that is.) I don't know if they ratchet up the penalties for subsequent offenses with firearms, though.

71 posted on 03/25/2002 5:23:29 PM PST by Eala
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To: Poohbah
Question: Do you think that the federal government is operating within its constitutional constraints?
72 posted on 03/25/2002 5:26:31 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
No. Do I use Marxist-Leninist class warfare rhetoric to discuss it? No. Do you? Yes. Do your rantings and ravings have a point? None that is discernable once you remove the class warfare rhetoric.
73 posted on 03/25/2002 5:30:08 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Eala
Well, New Zealand is going the route of Australia. It has placed incredible limits on gun ownership on the citizens of New Zealand.

The country is going socialist as fast as it can, and it is imposing powerful restrictions on the use of common items like fireplaces, wood burning stoves, etc. Soon, no home owner will be allowed to use any fuel in any stove, or fireplace other than methane, or natural gas as it is known here. Needless to say, Environmental Extremism is alive and well in the socialist government of New Zealand.

Heard the trend? The NZ government is inviting many foreigners into the country, and the citizens of that English culture are packing up and leaving the country.

Sounds familiar doen't it?

75 posted on 03/25/2002 5:31:57 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: Pistias
Felons? The criminally insane? The unskilled?

"Felons" and "criminally insane" people are in jail (if those words mean anything). No, of course they should not be allowed weapons; this would make it difficult to keep them in prison.

"Unskilled" people with weapons should take some classes or something. It's not clear what you want the government to do about them, or how the government would define "unskilled".

76 posted on 03/25/2002 5:36:37 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Poohbah
Class struggle is not what we are talking about. The author, which you and jihad have long since forgotten about, is discussing how government is out of its constitutional box, and as such, is a threat to freedom. He is right. We are being lied to, fooled, and kept in the dark. And now, our very own typically conservative president is about to sign into law and bill that should never have seen the light of day because it is illegal.

Thus, this discussion is about out of control Big Government.

But, sometimes, when you question things, there are those who can't handle it. And, there are those who are detractors who wait in the weeds ready to pounce on anyone who dares question the will of government.

77 posted on 03/25/2002 5:44:08 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: Travis McGee
Ping! Another one worth taking a look-see. I'm out for the night.
78 posted on 03/25/2002 6:51:34 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Dr. Frank
"Unskilled" people with weapons should take some classes or something.

That's a start.

Maybe then, EVERYONE will get out alive.

A life is a terrible thing to lose.

79 posted on 03/25/2002 7:00:40 PM PST by alcuin
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks!
80 posted on 03/25/2002 7:06:01 PM PST by Travis McGee
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