Bush-Rice 2004? | The rise and rise of Condi

The Sunday Times of London ^ | March 24, 2002 | Andrew Sullivan

[RAT Patrol]

I've been pondering the reason why I always seem to really love a black conservative. Is it because they're black and I think that would be good for us? I've decided that isn't it.

The reason I am drawn to Condi Rice, JC Watts, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams...(not really Colin Powell)..is because of what it takes to be a black conservative. You have to be an outside the box, free thinker. You have to have really looked at the facts and made a choice based on reason, not popularity. Those are the kinds of personalities I like best and respect most. They seem to nearly always be present in the black conservative.

[RAT Patrol]

Add Alan Keyes. I wouldn't want to forget him.

YOu also have to be strong and able to stand on your own two feet for principles you believe in, no matter what cost.

[gcruse]

I never thought of that before. If Condi is the best choice for next VP, then go for it. I don't expect it to influence the black vote, though. See Clarence Thomas.

[eskimo]

The last thing this country needs is more CFR Marxist type indoctrinates in our government.

[Utopia]

I think she's great - but the one issue crowd are going to have a seizure if she's GWB's running mate. They are so hung up about abortion they'd perfer stay at home and not vote. (an attitude which gave us Hillary, by the way).

[Question_Assumptions]

The only real problem with her is that she is pro-choice. If she would promise to appoint strict constructionalist Justices who would return the abortion issue to the states if she were to become president, I'd probably accept it. Bush would simply need to be aware that there would be people willing to kill him simply to create the first black woman president by fiat.

[Artist]

A recent thread regarding Condi:

WOULD CONDI RICE AND COLIN POWELL BE "PRO-CHOICE" ON SLAVERY?

[Redcloak]

If she were picked simply because she's Black, then that would be a huge mistake. However, she should be picked because, after Dick Cheney, she's the best qualified for the job.

(Though it should be noted that Dick Cheney is enjoying hunting all of these "undisclosed locations" he's been sent to!)

[aShepard]

If Condi came out of Bushes' inner sanctum and lost her ability to be his final private sounding board, she would then leave Bush vulnerable to the lefties.

A VP has to take a public stand on issues, and those issues may differ from those of the President.

But it would be a great ticket, and would make the black and femi-nazi voter factions stand up and take notice.

[mustapha mond]

Lets get real clear about something. Conservatives will put up with a lot but if a pro choice candidate joins the Bush ticket he will lose a lot a support. It will be "no new taxes" all over again. I supported GW as a precinct worker for the entire year before the election and since then as well, but even I have my limits. --MM

[ellery]

Totally agree. It makes me happy that not all minorities buy into the liberal condescension that the left proffers. I feel the same way about the log cabin republicans, and about dems that break ranks.

[section9]

Condi is pro-choice like most American women are: that is, she would, given her druthers, probably prefer to have the issue returned to the states. I know that she is opposed to abortion-on-demand; she is, for instance, in favor of parental rights and notification. Like everyone else who is close to GWB, she is against partial-birth. Anyone who describes herself as a Second-Amendment absolutist is going to appoint Strict Constructionists to the High Court. Thus her "mildly pro-choice" approach to the abortion issue probably stems from her latent libertarian instincts. In short, she is not a feminazi.

Look, folks, I'm a supporter of hers in spite of this because I know that she is hyper-qualified for the Presidency. So is Dick Cheney, but he ain't gettin' any younger.

But the delicious thing about Condi is that she gives the Republican Party an absolute edge among Soccer Moms and other female voters while maintaining our commanding lead among white men. Black voters will still vote for the Democrat, simply because they've been conditioned to vote. The Democrats could run a Hitler-Heydrich ticket and they'd still win the black vote.

I promise you, a Bush-Rice ticket will absolutely stomp the opposition. Which will put Rice in a position to wipe the floor with the Hildebeast in the great Hair Pull of 2008.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Jonathon Spectre]

I keep hearing whispers that sound like this: "Bush and Giuliani, Bush and Giuliani..." Dunno if it's true, but would be interesting.

Condi Rice does whip serious ass. Any time you see a black conservative you know you're dealing with one seriously intelligent and fearless human being.

[Redleg Duke]

Single issue voters have a one-track mind...and are usually successfully side-tracked by the liberals.

Interesting how they allow the liberals to manipulate them and then turn around and blame the Republicans for putting them in the situation.

[RAT Patrol]

To a point I can agree with you on the log cabin republicans. As long as it's genuine and not phony in order to advance an agenda. I will not join them in their fight for gay adoption, teaching homosexuality in schools, boy scouts....anything that deals with children. Forget about it. I do not believe in gay marriage either, for the same reason. But they deserve the same human rights as the rest of us, obviously. I have no problem with fighting the cause of AIDS. That's a humanitarian issue. I am not sure if the LCR does push the gay agenda as it applies to children. My guess is they do.

[Utopia]

Single issue voters have a one-track mind...and are usually successfully side-tracked by the liberals.

Interesting how they allow the liberals to manipulate them and then turn around and blame the Republicans for putting them in the situation.

Wow! That's well said. So well said, I'll repeat it again.

[ZULU]

I'd vote for Rice for President or Vice-President in a heartbeat. She is intelligent, thoughtful, charming, conservative and beautiful.

The Republican Party will be the first to break the color and sex barrier and I hope its with a qualified, capable woman like this lady.

And I wish they would exile Colon Powell to Tom Jefford's Office.

[Aaron_A]

The RATS' worst nightmare.

[summer]

As previously mentioned numerous times here on FR, the wining GOP ticket for 2008 may well be: Jeb Bush/Condi Rice.