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Agag, the king of the Amalekites
http://philologos.org/bpr/files/a016.htm ^ | March 29 2002 | GOD

Posted on 03/29/2002 8:19:26 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

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The Amalekites were an ancient nomadic tribe of southern Palestine. They are related to Esau (Genesis 36:12) through their ancestor Amalek.

Israel was attacked by Amalek. According to Deuteronomy 25:17, Amalek "feared not God." Amalek's attack on Israel, according to the "Midrashic lore," was an obscene defiance of God and a contempt for God.

Where men attack God's people, there we often have a covert or overt attack on God. Unable to strike directly at God, they strike at God's people. There is thus continual warfare between Amalek and Israel, between God's people and God's enemies. The outcome must be the blotting out of God's enemies.

Thus, fourth, the covenant people must wage war against the enemies of God, because this war is unto death. The deliberate, refined, and obscene violence of the anti-God forces permits no quarter.

This warfare must continue until the Amalekites of the world are blotted out, until God's law-order prevails and His justice reigns

(1 Sam 15:8-9,32-33 KJV) And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. {9} But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly...

1Sa 15:1 Samuel also said to Saul, the LORD sent me to anoint thee [to be] king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou to the voice of the words of the LORD.
1Sa 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember [that] which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid [wait] for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
1Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
1Sa 15:4 And Saul assembled the people, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
1Sa 15:5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
1Sa 15:6 And Saul said to the Kenites, Go, depart, withdraw yourselves from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel when they came up from Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
1Sa 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah, [until] thou comest to Shur, that [is] over against Egypt.
1Sa 15:8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
1Sa 15:9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all [that was] good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing [that was] vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.
1Sa 15:10 Then came the word of the LORD to Samuel, saying,
1Sa 15:11 I repent that I have set up Saul [to be] king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried to the LORD all night.
1Sa 15:12 And when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning, it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and behold, he set him up a place, and has gone about, and passed on, and gone down to Gilgal.
1Sa 15:13 And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said to him, Blessed [be] thou of the LORD: I have performed the commandment of the LORD.
1Sa 15:14 And Samuel said, What [meaneth] then this bleating of the sheep in my ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?
1Sa 15:15 And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice to the LORD thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed.
1Sa 15:16 Then Samuel said to Saul, Stay, and I will tell thee what the LORD hath said to me this night. And he said to him, Say on.
1Sa 15:17 And Samuel said, When thou [wast] little in thy own sight, [wast] thou not [made] the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel?
1Sa 15:18 And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go, and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are consumed.
1Sa 15:19 Why then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?
1Sa 15:20 And Saul said to Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.
1Sa 15:21 But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice to the LORD thy God in Gilgal.
1Sa 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD [as great] delight in burnt-offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey [is] better than sacrifice, [and] to hearken than the fat of rams.
1Sa 15:23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king.
1Sa 15:24 And Saul said to Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words; because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.
1Sa 15:25 Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD.
1Sa 15:26 And Samuel said to Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD hath rejected thee from being king over Israel.
1Sa 15:27 And as Samuel turned about to depart, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle, and it rent.
1Sa 15:28 And Samuel said to him, The LORD hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbor of thine, [that is] better than thou.
1Sa 15:29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he [is] not a man, that he should repent.
1Sa 15:30 Then he said, I have sinned: [yet] honor me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, and before Israel, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD thy God.
1Sa 15:31 So Samuel turned again after Saul; and Saul worshiped the LORD.
1Sa 15:32 Then said Samuel, Bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites. And Agag came to him delicately. And Agag said, Surely the bitterness of death is past.
1Sa 15:33 And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.
1Sa 15:34 Then Samuel went to Ramah; and Saul went up to his house to Gibeah of Saul.
1Sa 15:35 And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the LORD repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.


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IF THE ISREALIES would have done what they were told to do in the beginning this would not be happening GOD said to utterly destroy them that meant man and beast and all manner of their being

OOPS ON THEM

1 posted on 03/29/2002 8:19:26 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: dixie sass,chesty puller,antivenom,bigun,smallstuff,pocat,sunshine,jd792,stanleypie,joan_30,annie
Noah Webster Version 1833

Agag, the king of the Amalekites

My sources also the bible

2 posted on 03/29/2002 8:22:50 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
REMEMBER the Amalekites...I'm sure those Israeli solders are thinking the same thing!!!
3 posted on 03/29/2002 8:25:35 PM PST by timestax
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven. And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi: For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

A personal favorite of mine. Means God will attack amalek forever until his very memory is wiped clean from our historical collective consciousness.

4 posted on 03/29/2002 8:25:41 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This warfare must continue until the Amalekites of the world are blotted out, until God's law-order prevails and His justice reigns

Bad news for China, Japan, Korea, India . . . Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation - that He makes more loosers than keepers. Strange.

5 posted on 03/29/2002 8:28:25 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This king is just a picture of how the devil operates. He knows he cannot attack GOD, so he attacks God's people instead. This has nothing to do with Israel!
6 posted on 03/29/2002 8:28:52 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
This has nothing to do with Israel!

huh?

7 posted on 03/29/2002 8:31:13 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: CyberAnt
The SPIRIT of amalek... led him to kill the women, children and infirmed at the REAR of the Israeli assembly instead of at the front where the men of war were. He killed the unarmed women and children.

The very first time I heard the suicide bomb scenario of dead babies, nursing moms and old folks in Jerusalem... I told mrs. P... amalek is alive and well. The trouble is the amalek attitude is rampant here in the USA as well. It just has not reached its "season". I fear the season is sooner rather than later.

8 posted on 03/29/2002 8:33:08 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
What is interesting is that their preferred method of warfare has always been terrorism:

Deu 25:17 Remember what Amalek did to you by the way, when you came forth out of Egypt,
Deu 25:18 how he met you by the way and struck those of you who were behind, all the feeble behind you, when you were faint and weary. And he did not fear God.

They killed the weakest and the most innocent much as terrorists do today.

9 posted on 03/29/2002 8:34:19 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Phil V.
Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation

GOD is is not in inefficient humans are remember the decisions you make and they made as well are up to the individual

10 posted on 03/29/2002 8:35:08 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Phil V.
How many people do you know personally that you would want to spend eternity with? Arafat maybe? Or how about Stalin? According to Revelation the number of all peoples and tongues that are praising God in Revelation is beyond man's ability to count, doesn't sound like alot of waste to me.
11 posted on 03/29/2002 8:39:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: DouglasKC
They killed the weakest and the most innocent much as terrorists do today

EXACTLY

The reason i posted this is to inform those who do not know of how old and ancient this battle is if israel had destroyed them to begin with this would not be happening [IMHO] but hindsite is always 20/20

12 posted on 03/29/2002 8:40:33 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
gulp. thanks, i guess, for a trip through a hand-me-down collection of stories of a sandy part of the world. my thoughts: eliminate the superstitous mumbo jumbo about a crazy old man hallucinating to a burning bush or the nutcase that said he mounted a winged horse one night and just let them bow and fight. i say we of the ragged made-up he's a man he's a plane he's a er he's the god side with the hallucinating one and have at it. meantime...why sputter like falwell or jackson
13 posted on 03/29/2002 8:41:45 PM PST by colormebemused
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To: colormebemused
So i take it you dont beleive in god? OR are you just being silly?
14 posted on 03/29/2002 8:43:22 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Ahhhh!

Clarity!!!

Still . . . it does seem as though there is a lot of killing to do until only the "keepers" remain. (Is it really Mankind's job to pick and choose the Godly from the ungodly) I would have thought that to be God's judgement. His children seem to be too self-absorbed to render divine judgement. But then, what do I know. Such a mystery.

15 posted on 03/29/2002 8:44:09 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.
What does Amalek have to do with China, Korea, Japan, India?

It is clearly a middle-eastern people, and one known for lack of any civility or civilization, in that a war of the kind fought in WWII (nasty enough, but not like a terrorism war) cannot be conducted, for they will fight as Jebus did against David, hiding behind the crippled and elderly, while attacking the children and the weak and elderly in the rear of the Israelite column...

It represents the Palestinians most certainly, and more generally the Arabs to the extent they lack civilization and will not fight in the manner civilized nations do...

16 posted on 03/29/2002 8:48:16 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Phil V.
Is it really Mankind's job to pick and choose the Godly from the ungodly

WRONG

17 posted on 03/29/2002 8:48:59 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Phil V.
YES! Informed by proper study of the things of God, it is not that difficult to tell what to do.
18 posted on 03/29/2002 8:51:47 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Phil V.
....Your article suggests that God is terribly inefficient in His Creation...

God didn't create us that way, WE fell in the Garden of Eden. We are all born lost and doomed to Hell. Only through the mercy and grace of Jesus Christ are we redeemed. Consider there were only 8 saved in the flood. The Bible measures aproxamately 1800-2000 years from the Garden to the flood. How many people might have been here then? There were possibly billions of people on earth at that time and they all perished and went to Hell except for 8. It is probable that the vast majority of people will end in Hell.

19 posted on 03/29/2002 8:54:38 PM PST by chuckles
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Deuteronomy 12:

28-- Be careful to obey all these regulations I am giving you, so that it may always go well with you and your children after you, because you will be doing what is good and right in the eyes of the LORD your God.

29-- The LORD your God will cut off before you the nations you are about to invade and dispossess. But when you have driven them out and settled in their land,

30-- and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, "How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same."

31-- You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.

20 posted on 03/29/2002 9:01:20 PM PST by Optimist
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