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To: MizSterious;spectre;Jaded;Amore

Interesting....Douglas Pierce has made several provocative statements about his visit to the VD house, just days after the disappearance.

These recent statements seem to be even more puzzling....comments from VD freepers please.....

"Van Dam Suspicions"
Douglas Pierce recent comments on Websleuths......

He was the man who entered the Van Dam residence shortly after the crime and was horrified at what he saw. He noticed the Van Dams rehearsing lines, saw the blue PJs being folded and was overall shocked at the behavior of the parents.

Why would he lie in a case involving murder/kidnapping. This would involve criminal charges pertaining to perjury if he were called as a witness, tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, etc.

Here is SOME of what he had to say.

- The page saying "Daddy please love me" had been torn out and was in damon's nightstand in the master bedroom

-The journal had been placed in the bookshelf and Brenda had to find it for Pierce to look at.

-The last entry there was "I am thinking of a shady place, blue sky and green grass, a safe place."

-Her journal was titled:Goodwill Ambassador

-On 2/6/02 While in the VD house, Pierce heard PR people say "What are we going to do about Brenda and Westerfield?"

-When Pierce left the house that day, he said the VD's knew she wasn't coming back.

-Danielle's room was sealed after 2/6-2/7. Only dog gate and door was open prior. He was allowed to go in.

-Pierce speculates that "We will learn Danielle was killed in her room"

- In reference to the $10,000 he offered. Damon replied to him "My boys are worth more than $10,000."

Pierce said "My organization can only help with that much. I am confused, your boys are being protected today Right?"
(there was no comment)

"It's Danielle that is missing, Right?"

Pierce said a hush went over the whole house.

-Damon was verbally abusive and treated Brenda like crap. He was very controlling, aggressive and threatening.

- While in the home that day Brenda's dad said Danielle was dead... he doesn't know why he said it... maybe out of angst.

-Damon has 2 totally different personalities. His control is silent.

In the 7 hrs DP was in the house, Brenda 4 times and Damon 3 times, referred to Danielle in past tense "She Was....."

He also said to go to www.mcf.tv on Saturday, to post more information. This is the website of his organization.

Now, are people going to question this man's account...

(who had nothing to do with the case, and would only be stepping into serious criminal charges by lying)...

and believe the words of Damon and Brenda who have contradicted each other under oath, have their own guests contradicting their testimony, have multiple eye witnesses contradicting their testimony, have given multiple stories in interviews, etc.

AND THIS IS THE VICTIM'S FAMILY??!! I would expect such behavior from the Defendant.

You can believe who you want. It's a free country. But I am just laying out what was said. I am just the messenger here on this one.


Now for my 2-cents:

From Damon's DIRECT ACCOUNTS (all versions taken together), there is about a 30 minute window of opportunity open for this crime to have been done by "an intruder".

I will not post why this is, because I do not know who is reading and do not want to furnish any "study material".

Damon is guilty. That is my opinion. And DW was an unfortunate victim by going about his normal routine, and having Damon point his behavior out as "suspicious". Then distributing flyers within miles of where the body was found, so as to guide the search over there. Remember, it was "on a hunch" that they decided to look on Dehesa Rd.

Just like it "was suggested" by someone to investigate DW.

Close to 200 prints were found in the RV. This sounds like a playplace for neighborhood kids. It was there so long, DW was forced to remove it to a remote location. Most likely concerned parents who knew kids used it as a "fort" or as a hide-and-go-seek place.

DWs jacket was rumored to be over the back of the driver's seat. That was where he kept it. Blood was found on the lapel and the curtain above the steering wheel.

For a child with frequent nosebleeds (Danielle, as BVD attested to) and plenty of time to leave a speck of blood, this is not unusual at all.

The trip was his normal behavior.
The drycleaners were his normal cleaners. He was known by first name there.

Damon left the side garage door open after he dragged Danielle out so as not to get her DNA on him. Into the Van. Upon returning home he went in the front door and forgot he left the side garage door open. He did not close it, because he would not want a bloody handprint/DNA on the door knob.

Brenda found the side door open. This was true.

But this would not allow time for an intruder and Damon knows that.

Brenda's true alarm light story did not allow time for DW, because DW had an alibi at that time.

So Damon made up the later alarm breach to show a window of opportunity. And to say "the alarm light story has been misreported". Which is BS. They gave two separate DIRECT QUOTE accounts!

So he then had to make up the 2nd alarm light. Which kept moving later and later. In the AMW interview, it was as late as 3:45am!

Then the ol' "magnet and screwdriver test" to show "even if there WAS no alarm breach in the morning after I'd walked by Danielle's room 4 times in letting the dog in/out, he STILL could have gotten in with a child's magnet and screwdriver... yeah... that's it."

Anyway, I could go on and on about this. But there are too many things to list and I am tired of typing.

I am sure this will receive flack and others will agree.

It's just my opinion.

By the way, here's a pic of the streetlight on the street:

But these Pierce observations are very incriminating in my book. Since I do not trust the VDs one bit, and see that Pierce has a strong incentive to not lie (criminal charges, etc.), I believe what he is saying and claiming to all the world.

To lie about such a thing is very serious indeed.


3 posted on 03/31/2002 1:59:57 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
The Van Dams are the number one suspects, in my opinion. SOMETHING is wrong with their story/behavior.
5 posted on 03/31/2002 2:08:18 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: FresnoDA
"He noticed the Van Dams rehearsing lines, saw the blue PJs being folded and was overall shocked at the behavior of the parents."

Why were the blue pyjamas being folded at the VD house? Didn't they belong to one of Danielle's friends? Wasn't that the story? And why, oh why, would the parents have to rehearse lines? At that point, there really was only one thing to say, if they truly believed their daughter was kidnapped and being held somewhere: Please bring our baby back! I defy any of you to show me a grieving parent of a kidnapped child who ever read from a script! Possibly the Ramseys, but I have not ever seen anyone else do this.

6 posted on 03/31/2002 2:26:09 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
I believe Pierce also. My personal belief is that David Westerfield and Brenda were having an affair. I bet Danielle had been in his home and motorhome several times before, maybe stopping by with Brenda to talk or being told it was okay to play there. I think Damon VD is a total abuser and is the one who killed Danielle, accidentally or purposefully. I think he knowingly set up Westerfield. I think Westerfield panicked while on his trip when he turned around and saw her body and knew he'd been set up.

At these pre-trial hearings, I've been watching the glances and overall body language of these three. It's like they all know something. Westerfield looks at them, especially Brenda, like "How can you do this and when are you going to tell the truth?" It's really scary how easily anyone could be set up these days.

7 posted on 03/31/2002 2:28:18 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: FresnoDA
"- In reference to the $10,000 he offered. Damon replied to him "My boys are worth more than $10,000." "

FresnoDA, what do you think of this peculiar statement? Damon trying to get more reward money out of Pierce? Or something else...? Odd!

8 posted on 03/31/2002 2:30:35 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
The page saying "Daddy please love me" had been torn out and was in damon's nightstand in the master bedroom

Proof?

12 posted on 03/31/2002 3:11:20 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
GAG~
13 posted on 03/31/2002 3:12:12 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
The page saying "Daddy please love me" had been torn out and was in damon's nightstand in the master bedroom

Wasn't Brenda the one who showed this to DP? Could she have been trying to tip him off? I.e. was/is she being blackmailed and or abused by DVD? Wild speculation, I know.

15 posted on 03/31/2002 3:27:03 PM PST by tetelestai
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To: FresnoDA
Just as a point of information to the best of my recollection, there were 200 latent prints collected in the case, not just the motorhome. 18 People gave known prints for comparison. Six prints, Three sets of two each were matched in the MH, Danielle Van Dam, Danielle Lelac and Jennifer.

And Kim how many times do I have to post to you the info about the torn pages in the nightstand?

19 posted on 03/31/2002 3:37:14 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: FresnoDA
Two good topics to post, Fres.

I don't know how much the cremation cost, but not a whole lot.

I wouldn't want anything to do with money collected for the "Fund" if it were my child. They should have it in control of "The Center for Missing Children" for advertising or something like that.

Seems money was no problem in the past for the van Dams?

Damon is a real piece of work basically saying "SEE, this is how could have been done!"

Lots of ways it could have been done in that house that night.

sw

23 posted on 03/31/2002 3:55:16 PM PST by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
Great post, Fres.

This whole situation is mighty peculiar, to say the least.

All one has to do is read the lyrics to the photo montage of Danielle (Sarah McLachlan's "Angel") - a lyrically dark song to choose, when a precious child is MISSING!!! sounded to me like they already knew she was dead. Would be interesting to find out why they chose that particular song.

25 posted on 03/31/2002 4:01:06 PM PST by GoRepGo
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To: FresnoDA
This is chilling, but refresh my memory. Who is David Pierce and why was he at the scene of the crime? Is he an investigator? A reporter?

I'm sorry, I've been sick and away from the computer for several days.

29 posted on 03/31/2002 4:36:43 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: FresnoDA
Good Post
48 posted on 03/31/2002 7:08:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: FresnoDA
House of VD-- these people are so sick and twisted, they'll use the $24K for their own defense.
50 posted on 03/31/2002 7:36:01 PM PST by let freedom sing
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To: FresnoDA
For a child with frequent nosebleeds (Danielle, as BVD attested to)

I've not heard this before - Brenda testified as to this?

The additional info regarding what Pierce observed is interesting to say the least - I just wish we could determine his credibilty a bit more.

134 posted on 04/01/2002 9:39:54 AM PST by mommya
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