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To: B. A. Conservative
Is the United States broken?
Yes
If it is broken, can it be fixed?
Yes
If it can be fixed, how long will it take?
4 years
Who will fix it?
Those who believe in the Constitution
Will there be opposition to fixing it?
Yes
Can the opposition be defeated within a reasonable period of time?
Yes
How long is reasonable?
4 years
How realistic are your expectations about whether it can be fixed?
Sadly, not very....
How realistic are your expectations with regard to time?
Sadly, not very....
If it can't be fixed, have you considered other solutions regarding your disappointment with the present state of affairs in the United States?
Yes
Could other countries offer the freedom you seek?
No
Are there other existing countries that offer more freedom than what is currently offered in the United States?
No
If one state were to secede and offer a Constitutional Republic like the one we had, would you consider living there?
I'd leave today.
How would the United States respond to one state's elective and voluntary peaceable declaration of its own independence from the United States?
Remember the Civil War?
Would the United States be willing to use military action including the killing of peaceful secessionists?
See above
If a Boris Yeltsin took a stand in the state capitol, would the United States send in the tanks and kill him and/or his compatriots?
Yes, Remember Waco?
If the United States were actually willing to use force to surpress a state's secession, would you still want to live in the United States?
No
Would that be the final straw proving to any "doubting Thomas"es that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States are now empty meaningless words that no longer have validity as ideas?
Yes
Would this be the proof to some that the United States is now no different from any other form of tyranny?
I already suspect this to be the case
If one state successfully and peaceably seceded, would others follow?
Absolutely
Would we see groups of states organizing as regional republics competeing for citizens by offering more freedom than their neighboring nation/states?
Perhaps, not a bad idea....
Could our freedoms and liberties be restored more certainly and more quickly by forcing governments to compete with one another in an effort to please its citizens and/or prospective citizens?
Yes, That is the whole point of Amendment X - (largely ignored)
Does the United States have a monopoly on government?
No
Is the military superiority that the United States possesses over the rest of the world sufficient reason for its citizens to sacrifice their freedoms in the interests of security?
No
Could the military strength and superiority of the United States be obtained through the equivalent of a North American Nato?
Maybe?....
How can we restore our freedoms without secession?
Not as long as we continue to "elect" leaders who do not follow the constitution.
44 posted on 04/04/2002 9:23:14 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: WhiteGuy
"Would we see groups of states organizing as regional republics competing for citizens by offering more freedom than their neighboring nation/states? "

Actually the state doesn't & can't offer anyone anything pertaining to "freedom". Everyone is born free, its man that enslaves man. Everyone on this planet has God given unalienable rights. In these united States we are supposed to have a Federal Constitution that restricts the powers of that Federal government.
A lot of people don't seem to understand one thing, the Constitution for the United States was never meant to be for each individual state. That's why each state has its own constitution that's supposed to secure the rights of the people, not restrict them.

"The Constitution was ordained and established by the people of the U nited States forthemselves, for their own government, and not for the government of the individual States. Each State established a constitution for itself, and in that constitution provided such limitations and restrictions on the powers of its particular government as its judgment dictated. The people of the U nited S tates framed such a government for the U nited S tates as they supposed best adapted to their situation, and best calculated to promote their interests ."

This quote was taken from a book called
"DOCUMENTS AND READINGS IN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. NATION, STATE, AND LOCAL."
By
John Mabry Mathews
professor of political science in the university of illinois

And

Clarence Arthur Berdahl
Assistant professor of political science in the university of illinois.
1928. Page 79

So one sees the Federal Constitution has nothing to do with the states and the Federal government hasn't the power to force the people of the individual states to do anything, unless the people (by their own ignorance) allow it.

"If one state were to secede and offer a Constitutional Republic like the one we had, would you consider living there?"

Save a small chunk of land for me.

46 posted on 04/04/2002 3:36:37 PM PST by Mikey
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