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Catholic Interest Groups See in Scandal a Chance to Further Their Causes
FOXNEWS.com ^ | Tuesday, April 09, 2002 | Catherine Donaldson-Evans

Posted on 04/09/2002 11:34:11 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:33:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antitradition; catholic; catholiclist; christianlist; scandal
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1 posted on 04/09/2002 11:34:11 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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2 posted on 04/09/2002 11:35:26 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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And the devil plays his game of conflict and scandal with a trump card in the end.

Thank God we know who wins in the end.

3 posted on 04/09/2002 11:37:25 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Catholics for a Free Choice — whose mission is to work for marriage and optional celibacy for priests as well as women’s rights (including abortion) — has ramped up its activity. It plans to hold an international meeting at the United Nations in May, according to the group’s president Frances Kissling.

The "group" consists of Frances Quisling, a couple of her NAG Feminazi buddies, a fax machine, and an office suite in Manhattan paid for by the Ford Foundation, the Packard Foundation, and various other usual suspects.

They represent only themselves.

5 posted on 04/09/2002 11:38:47 AM PDT by Campion
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The problem was caused by disciplinary and doctrinal laxity, not by celibacy itself. The Church will emerge stronger from this only if she stays true to her ideals and makes greater efforts to live them, not turn herself into a new religion that is the image and likeness of the liberal establishment. Our free society already has a Unitarian Church and and Episcopal Church -- it doesn't need yet another.
6 posted on 04/09/2002 11:40:25 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Let me get this straight. A gay priest molests boys -- and homosexuals think that's an argument to allow gay priests?

No, the problem is, the Catholic Church is publicly forbidding gay priests -- while privately sanctioning them, and even empowering them.

8 posted on 04/09/2002 11:40:57 AM PDT by JoeSchem
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Smoke will infiltrate from within. The devil is attacking the Roman Catholic Church with a desperate evil agenda. Tradition and the sacredness is what he wants destroyed and he will play any trick to do it.
9 posted on 04/09/2002 11:43:15 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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The problem was caused by disciplinary and doctrinal laxity, not by celibacy itself.

And, with irrefutable leftist 'logic', the answer to all this then, is more of the same.

Comforting that some things never change.
10 posted on 04/09/2002 11:45:13 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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This is the liberal Catholic agenda that has been trying to make the public believe clergy-abuse is a "Catholic" issue for 20+ years now (successfully for the last 10 or so). I am starting to believe this is their last big push. We will be hearing a lot from them over the next couple years as they try to use it to change the Church, but I think they have already lost. This won't be the last we hear from them, but I expect their power in the Church is waning.

Of course, I've been wrong before.

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11 posted on 04/09/2002 11:45:22 AM PDT by patent
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These folks broke themselves away from Rome and the Holy See with their very causes of anti-tradition.
12 posted on 04/09/2002 11:46:05 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Let me get this straight. A gay priest molests boys -- and homosexuals think that's an argument to allow gay priests?
Not only that, but the gays go protest along side the(ir) victims.

patent  +AMDG

13 posted on 04/09/2002 11:46:21 AM PDT by patent
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Lol ... ever hopeful you're not wrong this time.
14 posted on 04/09/2002 11:46:53 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
And all you traditionalist Catholics, who don't want to become like the Anglicans, are welcome to come to the open arms of the Orthodox Church, where such BS "change for the better" does not take place and will not take place. We await your arrival.
15 posted on 04/09/2002 11:46:56 AM PDT by Stavka2
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>>>They represent only themselves.

They also represent their biggest contributors, the media.

16 posted on 04/09/2002 11:47:05 AM PDT by patent
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I believe their power and cause is waning and desparate....as desparate as the devil himself is.In the end Saint Michael will show us all who wins in God's name of heaven.
18 posted on 04/09/2002 11:49:26 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Undoubtedly there are going to be individuals or groups who will look to use any situation to their own benefit," he said. "That’s almost a given."

Exactly. It's because of the influence of groups of this type that the Church has been infiltrated by so large a number of evil priests. The Church needs to clean house by retruning to traditional values and ignoring clymers like these.

19 posted on 04/09/2002 11:50:27 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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"We cannot change basic church teaching on fundamental matters of the faith," he said. "We believe that what the church teaches is true and unchangeable. It has not changed for 2000 years."

That is a very long tradition. It has survived worse times than this and will continue to do so.

Keep in mind that any change must come from the vatican and impacts catholics in ALL countries, not just the US. The changes they seek will not happen ... ever!

20 posted on 04/09/2002 11:53:01 AM PDT by NYer
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