[Lazamataz]

I disagree. As far as I am concerned, I can own nuclear weapons. Since all men are equal before God and the law, no man is my master. If man or group is entitled to own nuclear weapons, then I am. As far as the weapon being discriminating, a nuclear weapon can be sufficiently discriminating if it is directed at a tyrannical government which is also armed with nukes. (Think Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, Waco, etc.)

Oh, have you invented a new nuclear weapon that causes people who are aggressing against you to be vaporized, while only gently nudging people who are innocent and happen to be in the blast radius?

Because otherwise, I am seeing you assert that your right of self-protection triumphs other people's right of self-protection. I see you asserting that you are 'more equal' than others.

[HaveGunWillTravel]

Perhaps. On the other hand, all the people of Japan were not aggressing against the US when we nuked them. Not that what we did was right, but we did what was nessecary to defend ourselves. Any right that men can assert collectively, I believe one man can assert individually. Do we have the right to kill innocents? No, unless to not do so means that we will be killed. West Bank anyone? Anyway, to some extent, people are guilty of the crimes of their leaders. If they are our own leaders, we would be foolish to kill ourselves in an effort to stop them. At some point, it may come down to us vs them. Someone lives, someone doesn't. If I am not the aggressor, and someone innocent has to die, I propose that it not be me. Unequal? If someone who is innocent has to die so another may live, you are correct. It is not equal. The children at Waco were apparently not equal. Then again, its the same government that killed them that wants to disarm us.

[HaveGunWillTravel]

I think I agree with some of the others here that it is up to me to discrimate how I use that which I am entitled to own. I am allowed to own my arm. If I hit you in the nose with it, that is separate. Then the question becomes whether or not it was within my rights to do so. I agree that it is hard to avoid trampling someone else's rights with a nuclear weapon. Yet, many people own them. Are they my master?

[William Tell]

Lazamataz said: "Oh, have you invented a new nuclear weapon that causes people who are aggressing against you to be vaporized, while only gently nudging people who are innocent and happen to be in the blast radius?"

You must agree then that the sniper rifle used by Lon Horiuchi against Randy Weaver is not protected by the Second Amendment. How else can one explain how Weaver's wife was killed unless you suspect that Horiuchi intended her death.

[Cool Guy]

I kinda right now side with havegunwilltravel, in this argument.