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To: arielb
And what principle is that?

Love thy neighbor? (No pun intended)

19 posted on 04/22/2002 1:30:44 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB
I think the principle is: Thou Shalt Not Judge.....
23 posted on 04/22/2002 3:40:16 AM PDT by jokemoke
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To: DB
I HAVE OFTEN PONDERED A TROUBLING QUESTION/ISSUE IN THIS AREA OF LIFE:

1) I'm NOT talking about the rabid homosexual who's evidently mostly out for pleasure of the moment and maximizing control, pleasure issues at anyone and everyone's expense in service to his preferences etc.

2) Consider the principle, truth, declaration that the world shall "know we are Christians by our Love one for another." . . . and that based on Christ's criteria therein stated, the world has plenty of grounds to consider that there are really maybe what--2-5% of the claimed Christians in the world who really are. . . . if one was attending to that criteria only.

3) SOME homosexuals from the group that missed healthy affection and affirmation from a father figure, were mangled by a stressed domineering mother etc. . . who really don't want to shove their actions or orientation down anyone's throat (no pun intended) . . . etc.

3.1) SOME homosexuals from the latter group tend to be incredibly and authentically--and fairly sacrificially loving toward most any needy soul who crosses their paths. . . . sometimes (often?) putting most who claim to be Christian to shame.

4) I suppose if I realllllly got sternly observant, I might be able to trace some selfishness still at the root of most of their caring but not across the board, I think. Often they are loving just because it's their way of being in the world. If we consider that all true love comes from God . . . .God even has some stronger statements about loving people being in and of Him. . . .

5) IF we consider a professing Christian who is still a struggling rage-aholic; one who is a struggling glutton; one who is a struggling gossip; one who is a struggling liar; one who is a struggling alcoholic; one who is a struggling kleptomaniac; one who is a struggling depressive; . . . one who is a struggling worrier . . . all of them fairly inept, absent, nonexistent in terms of their sacrificially loving others . . . all of them hating their sin but making very slow progress over years to decades in terms of getting really on top of it . . . sometimes it seeming that even God has higher priorities for areas in their lives He's dealing with.. . . .

6) And then there's the type of homosexual I mentioned who also hates his sin and also struggles over years to decades with it and also earnestly wants Jesus to be His Savior AND LORD. . . . but who is many levels of quality and quantity better at platonically loving most any who cross their paths . . .

7) Who's the better Christian? Who's more Christlike? It's often been a sobering question to me.

8) And what ought The Church do about that?

57 posted on 04/22/2002 11:49:45 PM PDT by Quix
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