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Barbarians in the Church
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| 4/22/02
| Bill O'Reilly
Posted on 04/22/2002 5:36:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: ASTM366
"The Catholic Church has a mess on it hands because of its unbiblical adherance to a unmarried, celebate priesthood. God did not create man to be alone, but to have a female mate.
I shall notify Jesus of your disapproval of his life choices, forthwith.
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posted on
04/22/2002 8:24:34 PM PDT
by
AlguyA
To: ASTM366
God did not create man to be alone, but to have a female mate. or two or three--although not all at the same time. That's how high the divorce rate is.
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posted on
04/22/2002 8:29:46 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: ASTM366
Unfortunately, the Church has many big problems right now, but it's reverence for Mary is NOT one of them.
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posted on
04/22/2002 8:30:01 PM PDT
by
oldvike
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the heads up!!!
To: oldvike
"There Is Only One Name Given Under Heaven Or On The Earth By Which Thou Shalt Be Saved"......And that is Jesus Christ himself......Mary was not, and is not a supreme being....."No One Cometh Unto The Father Except By The Son".....The worship of Mary is false doctrine......
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posted on
04/22/2002 8:45:22 PM PDT
by
rawe
To: Luis Gonzalez
Thank you for the flag!
He waved goodbye to me from the front seat of his brand new Lincoln Continental. That principal sure sounds demonic, but I'm not so bothered about the car. At least he probably didn't coerce people into tithing towards it. But there was a Catholic clergyman years ago who was soliciting for money to build some new church center. My husband's aunt, a Catholic, called him up and told him he had some nerve soliciting old people for money when he spends his free days out on his yacht.
To: Luis Gonzalez
I typed too fast. The money solicitation was by radio-thon. Her call came out on the radio.
To: rawe
Mary is NOT worshiped by the Catholic Church....she is honored. She was neither goddess or superhuman. The Hail Mary (which is cited by most Catholic bashers as sacrilige) is not a prayer, but rather a means of meditation to become closer to the faith.
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04/22/2002 9:03:05 PM PDT
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oldvike
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To: JulieRNR21
cardinal Law should get out of the way else he will soon find himself at ground zero.
To: Luis Gonzalez
Some of these people aren't Christians - it's just a job to them. So they care more about the "iron law of oligarchy" than they care about God's Law.
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posted on
04/22/2002 9:41:31 PM PDT
by
185JHP
To: ASTM366
The Catholic Church has a mess on it hands because of its unbiblical adherance to a unmarried, celebate priesthood.You might want to read Matthew 19:12, 27-29 and 1 Corinthians 7:32-33. Read about Melchisedech, Elias, Paul, John the Baptist and Jesus, just to mention a few. They were all celibate and they are in the Bible. Also learn about fornication and the discussion of said topic in Scripture. Anyone who isn't married is called to be celibate. How convenient of you not to mention that.
As soon as they do away with this ridiculous requirement and the worship of Mary they will be miles ahead.
It's not ridiculous, it's Scriptural. Catholics don't worship Mary. We honor Her, just as Christ did and the fourth commandment instructs us to. Mary is after all, the Mother of all Christians. Luther, Calvin and Zwingli thought She was pretty special as well.
To: rawe
The worship of Mary is false doctrine......Catholics do not worship the Blessed Virgin Mary.
To: Luis Gonzalez; ASTM366
Religion should be taken seriously and it should be more than a lifestyle choice. There are some people who blame the vow of celibacy as the cause of the sexual abuse of children. This is not factual. A vow of celibacy may be difficult, since the sexual drive is non-trivial. However, men are not animals. Only those trapped in their immature behavior think that such a vow is an unnatural repression of tremendous energies. Ending the vow of celibacy will not deter homosexuality and pederasty. A man who has demonstrated grave perversity shouldn't be a priest. The priesthood is not a right and it's not subject to government laws. Priesthood is a vocation from God and an office conferred by the Church. Christ gave the apostles the power to bind and unbind -- hence the power of the Church to make law; and the Church, based on tradition and Scripture, may determine who may be a priest. The Church has consistently condemned homosexual behavior, so it is only logical that the Church should agree to enforce a zero- tolerance policy and expel priests found guilty of such abuse.
To: Victoria Delsoul
Wow. One of the best statements I've read regarding the ongoing scandal in the Catholic Church.
(tell the truth -- you copied all that out of a book, didn't you?) ;-)
To: Alberta's Child
Thanks AC! You're too kind.
To: SMEDLEYBUTLER; rawe
The worship of Mary is false doctrine...... In fact that statement is true. Worship of any creature would be idolatry. Like all Christians, the Catholic Church condemns in no uncertain terms the worship of creatures. Failure to acknowledge this, in 21st century America, amounts to either culpapble ignorance or libel.
AB
To: Victoria Delsoul
P.S. I did not really think that was taken from a book or article!
To: afraidfortherepublic
I will pray for him - a rosary tonight. I will also ask Padre Pio, Mother Teresa, and St. Joseph for their prayers.
To: Victoria Delsoul
Priesthood is a vocation from God This is a very important point that I rarely see mentioned. So many think that the solution is to allow married priests so it would open up the pool of eligible candidates.
But the truth is, if God is not calling someone to be a priest, that person shouldn't be a priest. It's not a career choice, like so many think it is.
Wouldn't it be funny if they did open it up to married priests, and found not one of them really had a true vocation?
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