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Barbarians in the Church
Intellivu ^ | 4/22/02 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 04/22/2002 5:36:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

My mother must be in the Roman Catholic Hall of Fame. For seven decades, she has been a loyal member of the Church. We are talking daily Mass, the rosary, the whole deal. My mom is a true believer, with a direct pipeline to God. If you need a favor, my mother is the one you should have praying for you.

So it is interesting to watch my mother following the priest scandal. Her group in the "Catholic Golden Age" club is generally appalled and confused. Their faith has not been shaken, but their confidence in the men running the church has been.

My mother is also in a difficult position because her only son has been leading the media charge in demanding that cardinals who allowed pedophile priests to roam be forced to resign.

The pastor of my mother's church stopped her after Mass and suggested that I should give equal time to "good" priests. My mother didn't quite know how to answer that, so she smiled and relayed the message to me. I then asked her, "Mom, does that mean when Republicans or Democrats do bad things, I have to have good ones on to balance?" She said she didn't know, and would I like another tuna sandwich?

According to a poll taken by Quinnipiac University, 70 percent of American Catholics want any high-ranking cleric that enabled child abuse to occur to resign. And get this: Only 46 percent of those polled have a favorable opinion of their parish priest, although 90 percent would trust him around children.

What this poll says is that American Catholic priests are failing in their jobs. And I know the reason why.

First, my credentials. Altar boy for 10 years. Sixteen years of Catholic education. Many, many sins and encounters with frowning priests in the confessional. I still go to Mass every Sunday.

My experience has taught me that many priests are extremely interested in themselves and their power -- a lot like most other human beings. The reason Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston will not resign in the face of overwhelming evidence that he aided and abetted gross crimes against children is that the man wants to keep his red hat. He likes the power and justifies his refusal to do penance by saying the best way to serve his church is to keep his power.

Of course, that's absurd. There's no way on this earth that Law can ever regain his moral authority. Perhaps in heaven.

I once taught at a Catholic high school in Florida, and the principal was a priest that ran around with teen-age boys all the time. Everybody knew something was strange, but the guy let it be known that he was shepherding troubled youths. Maybe he was. But this priest was so power mad and arrogant that he turned my stomach, and I left the teaching profession. He waved goodbye to me from the front seat of his brand new Lincoln Continental.

The thing is that many Catholics, including me, have had bad experiences with priests, but there is no higher court. The priest can pretty much do what he wants. As we now know, even criminal priests are sometimes protected because the bishops do not want public scandal in their dioceses.

My analysis of the priest situation has brought fear and loathing from some Catholics who don't like my tone. Some guy from Nevada sent me an email, saying, "Bill, you've gone berserk in your criticism of the Church." A man from Florida wrote: "Do you really think Cardinal Law knew what those priests were doing? You are just trying to get ratings, O'Reilly."

But most American Catholics understand what has happened and cannot defend it. My mother and her friends are watching closely to see if the pope, whom they love, will do anything. I told my mother not to get her hopes up.

There is a siege mentality in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. The elderly men who run things see an immoral world bent on destroying their institution. They see the forces of liberalism trying to tear down tradition. They see barbarians at the gate.

But the truth is that the true enemies of the church are already inside the fortress. They have damaged the walls of faith, hope and charity, and they are still operating.

If ever there were a time for an exorcism ...


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1 posted on 04/22/2002 5:36:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Centuries ago, the great St. Teresa of Avila said of the Church: "So many sheep without, so many wolves within."

I guess it hasn't changed much. Spain (and the Church, of course) of that time had people like Santa Teresa, San Ignacio, San Francisco Xavier, San Juan de la Cruz who emerged to reform many aspects of its life. I don't think that God has abandoned the Church, and I'm sure we will have our own saints arise to lead the Church out of its current sins and errors.

2 posted on 04/22/2002 5:48:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My mom is a true believer, with a direct pipeline to God. If you need a favor, my mother is the one you should have praying for you.

Think Bill's mom would pray for my son-in-law who has been struck with an incurable illness? We've tried everything else!

3 posted on 04/22/2002 6:12:23 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Good article. Not long ago I happened to see a couple religious TV programs - one Protestant/evangelical service and one Catholic one. The Protestant service talked about Jesus and the Bible, and the Catholic one focused on the Pope and priests. Made me wonder who had their faith in whom. (Speaking as someone who grew up in a Catholic family, with lots of priests and nuns among relatives). It's not for nothing that the Catholic Church is structurally based on the Roman Empire's organizational chart!
4 posted on 04/22/2002 6:24:41 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There is a siege mentality in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. The elderly men who run things see an immoral world bent on destroying their institution. They see the forces of liberalism trying to tear down tradition. They see barbarians at the gate.

Those elderly men are right about all that. Now what they do to stop child abuse in the future remains to be seen, but it doesn't change the fact the Catholic Church remains under attack by those who do not want anything that resembles 'objective truth' to be promulgated.

5 posted on 04/22/2002 6:30:53 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I tend to agree with O'Reilly. I spent seventeen + years in Catholic educational institutions( first as a student). There are clergymen and clergywomen addicted to power (may of these are actually liberal dissenter types as well). There's also nepotism, endless supply of freeloading, loafing camp followers, and types who gravitate toward money and like to control it. The leaders of some church institutions have not figured out how to attract and enlist loyal and faithful lay Catholics (*properly educated and trained*) and how to maintain an authentic Catholic spiritual focus. No human beings are perfect, but we can certainly do much better in certain cases. One thing though - I think we need to remove people who refuse to publicly take and sign an oath of fidelity to the teachings of the church. If you don't believe and try with serious effort to follow the core stuff, you should leave. Bishops who tolerate cover ups of ANYTHING, need to move along. Leaving dissenters in positions of power to apply their mischief is a large part of the current problems.
6 posted on 04/22/2002 6:31:48 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The Catholic Church has a mess on it hands because of its unbiblical adherance to a unmarried, celebate priesthood.

God did not create man to be alone, but to have a female mate.

As soon as they do away with this ridiculous requirement and the worship of Mary they will be miles ahead.

8 posted on 04/22/2002 6:52:18 PM PDT by ASTM366
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There's no way on this earth that Law can ever regain his moral authority. Perhaps in heaven.

Those are odds I don't think would book in Vegas

9 posted on 04/22/2002 6:54:50 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Can't believe how things have changed since my days in the Catholic Educational system

I was graduated in 54 from an all boys Catholic HS . We had over a 1000 in the graduating class and almost all priests and noviates for teachers, a total of 64 priests and 36 noviates.

It would have been hard to keep anything secret as rumors got around real quick . I can honestly say there was no hint of any of this type of scandal .
We had a couple of boozers and a few wack jobs but mainly normal men .
11 posted on 04/22/2002 7:13:26 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: William Wallace;Victoria Delsoul; Prodigal Daughter; afraidfortherepublic; billhilly; Ironword...
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12 posted on 04/22/2002 8:05:53 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Their faith has not been shaken, but their confidence in the men running the church has been."

I don't agree with much of what O'Reilly says, but on this issue, and his take on it as detailed here, he and I are of one mind.

13 posted on 04/22/2002 8:11:09 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: ASTM366
You have the same problems with married clergy too. Also, why throw Mary into it?
14 posted on 04/22/2002 8:11:27 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: livius
Where is there someone like Teresa of Avila or Mother Teresa or Francis of Assisi who has the moral authority to call for change. All we have are the libs who I think have a lot of responsibility for the problem in the first place.
15 posted on 04/22/2002 8:13:09 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Coleus; ASTM366
"Also, why throw Mary into it?"

I was coming back to say just that.

16 posted on 04/22/2002 8:13:25 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: uncbob
That's because it was during a time before the freaks, hippies, pot-smoking, make love not war, sexual-revolution weirdos took control of the Church, Schools, Media and everything else in this country. God Bless America, we will need it. I think we already lost His protection.

Another big secret in the Catholic Church, you think it's Cancer but it's AIDS.

17 posted on 04/22/2002 8:15:56 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I am sorry to hear about your son-in-law. Have you started a prayer thread for him here on FR? We have some mighty intercessors here, and have had more than a few small miracles. In any event, I will remember your son-in-law in my prayers for the sick. I say one decade of the Rosary each day for those with incurable illnesses.
18 posted on 04/22/2002 8:18:14 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Southern Baptist, he had to get his "diggs" in. Remember, ye must be born again. I was born once and am quite satisfied. Aren't we born again when we were babtized?

My man, Pat Robertson (Southern Baptist) doesn't mention Mary, he's not obsessed with it as others are, I guess?

19 posted on 04/22/2002 8:19:57 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the ping.....O'Reilly is right that Law should resign.

The overabundance of homosexual priests (many flocked to the seminaries in the late 60's & 70's) is the basic cause of the sexual abuse scandal. The Church became ultra liberal and is now reaping the results of those times.

I don't think married clergy is the answer...or ordaining women...but the homosexual priests should be removed.....ASAP!

20 posted on 04/22/2002 8:21:40 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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