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Oregon-Washington groups calls for end to 'hate radio' (Michael Savage)
AP, via OregonLive ^ | 24 April 2002 | JOHN ENDERS

Posted on 04/24/2002 5:50:47 AM PDT by Vigilant1

By JOHN ENDERS
The Associated Press
4/24/02 3:23 AM

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Church, community and political groups in Oregon and Washington are demanding an end to what they call 'hate radio' and have called on a station owned by billionaire Paul Allen to drop talk show host Michael Savage.

Savage, whose home base is KSFO in San Francisco, is syndicated on more than 350 radio stations nationwide. He is featured on KXL radio in Portland during the key afternoon drive-time slot, 4-7 p.m.

"The content is an unbroken stream of hate and chauvinism directed against women, people of color, liberals, immigrants and in particular people of Middle Eastern heritage and people of the Muslim faith. We condemn this message of hate..." said Tom Nelson, spokesman for the Coalition Against Hate Radio.

The coalition consists of the Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon, the Interfaith Councils of Greater Seattle and Greater Portland, the Islamic Societies of Southwest Washington and Portland, the Multnomah County Democratic Party, the Muslim Educational Trust, Oregon Friends of the Middle East, Jews for Global Justice, the Catholic Archdiocese of Portland, Centro Cultural and several other churches and groups.

It planned a 10 a.m. Wednesday news conference in Portland. KXL broadcasts news, talk, weather and traffic 24 hours a day to an audience from northern Oregon to southern Washington.

Tim McNamara, the station's general manager, said he had received seven letters of complaint about Savage's show, five of them identically worded. By contrast, he said, he received "hundreds" of letters supporting the station's decision to air the show.

"I have absolutely zero advertiser resistance," he said.

McNamara also said he offered Savage's critics airtime on his station, but they declined.

KXL, founded in 1926, is among billionaire Paul Allen's holdings. Allen also owns the Portland Trail Blazers basketball team, the Seattle Seahawks and the Rose Garden in Portland.

"The message that KXL is sending to communities of color, immigrants, and in particular to all people of Middle Eastern ancestry and to Muslims, is that you are not wanted in this country, that you have no value and that you should not expect any respect here," said Mona Goode, spokeswoman for the newly formed Coalition Against Hate Radio.

"That is a message that we must actively and vocally oppose," Goode said.

Members of the coalition said they will ask corporate advertisers to withhold their support from KXL until the station drops Savage.

"We're going to engage with the corporations that advertise on the radio station and appeal to their sense of corporate responsibility," Goode said.

"In a sense, Michael Savage has done us a favor. He's kind of united the coalition in and of himself," she said.

Michael Nank, a spokesman for Vulcan Inc., Allen's Seattle-based holding company, said Tuesday that Savage's views are his alone, and do not represent the station or its corporate owners.

Other than that, he said, "KXL is the broadcaster, and any day-to-day decisions are addressed by the station there."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: michaelsavage; pc; talkradio; whiningliberals
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To: Libertina
Oh, I must be # 100 as well! Go Michael Go!
101 posted on 04/24/2002 9:35:38 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Libertina
LOL Drat, too late!
102 posted on 04/24/2002 9:36:36 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Dengar01
These radical leftwingers will move from Michael Savage to Free Republic.

I don't think so. FreeRepublic is for the most part silent to the Leftists. You have to seek it out. Radio otoh can be stumbled upon. It can reach people that would never come to FR-many more people. That's why it is important to keep Michael on the air. And that goes for streaming audio too. It requires work to get it and very few ever do. The Leftists would LOVE to keep us on the web only. We can't let that happen.

I used to have dreams about the web superseding the traditional mediums but it now looks like it ain't gonna happen-not completely anyway.

103 posted on 04/24/2002 9:51:55 PM PDT by Musket
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To: Vigilant1
Church, community and political groups in Oregon and Washington are demanding an end to what they call 'hate radio' and have called on a station owned by billionaire Paul Allen to drop talk show host Michael Savage.

Hate TV must still be OK.

104 posted on 04/24/2002 9:55:48 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Musket
OOPS! I forgot about the LA Times lawsuit against FR. That would be the only way they could take down FR.
105 posted on 04/24/2002 10:06:34 PM PDT by Musket
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To: Salvation; geezerette
Savage said tonight he thinks the DNC is behind it. And boy I wouldn't want to be in their shoes, because he WILL go after them! You do NOT mess with the man!
106 posted on 04/24/2002 10:50:24 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: section9
This should surprise no one, of course.

No, I'm not surprised. American liberals are petty fasco-socialists, and most don't even know it. Their minds are just so confused and full of conflicting, nonsensical ideas.

But yes, they do like to shut people up, don't they?

They won't hesitate for a second to use government power to squelch speech that displeases them -- especially political speech -- and they'll consider themselves high-minded and tolerant as they do so.

It's really kind of amazing.

107 posted on 04/24/2002 11:07:01 PM PDT by Yardstick
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I hope these clowns (especially the Oregon Democrats) really push this....I would love to see them get nailed for attacking 1st Amendment rights
108 posted on 04/24/2002 11:29:02 PM PDT by willgetsome
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Like I said, I listen for about 15 minutes and then I tune out. I check back every couple of weeks hoping that I'll hear something of substance.

A year and a half later still no luck.

Hey if you like him great, but Savage does as much for me as Dr. Laura.

109 posted on 04/24/2002 11:34:59 PM PDT by G-Bob
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To: G-Bob
Different strokes for different strokes. If you don't care for his show that's your opinion-you change the channel. At least you're not using gestapo tactics to have him shut down because you don't like him. He's got over 350 affiliates and growing so somebody must be liking him.
110 posted on 04/25/2002 4:46:48 AM PDT by Musket
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To: G-Bob
Maybe you should listen for more than 15 minutes then. Savage sometimes talks about other things, but he is very well read and intelligent. You never told me who you listen to that has substance.
111 posted on 04/25/2002 4:50:25 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Pharmboy
Tell those people to listen to the local NPR station--I'm sure it's just what they want to hear. And also tell them that WE hate the crap on NPR and it's OUR tax dollars.

NPR = National Palestinian Radio

I propose mandatory drug testing for all employess of 501(c) tax-exempt corporations as a condition for their non-profit status. This should weed out a lot of the non-profit leeches...

112 posted on 04/25/2002 4:58:13 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Yardstick
No, I'm not surprised. American liberals are petty fasco-socialists, and most don't even know it. Their minds are just so confused and full of conflicting, nonsensical ideas.

But yes, they do like to shut people up, don't they?

They won't hesitate for a second to use government power to squelch speech that displeases them -- especially political speech -- and they'll consider themselves high-minded and tolerant as they do so.

Consider this:

…Paganism, though given over to all the extravagances of human reason, has left nothing to compare with the shameful monuments which have been prepared by the art of printing, during the reign of the gospel. The impious writings of Leucippus and Diagoras perished with their authors. The world, in their days, was ignorant of the art of immortalizing the errors and extravagances of the human mind. But thanks to the art of printing* and the use we make of it, the pernicious reflections of Hobbes and Spinoza will last forever. Go, famous writings, of which the ignorance and rusticity of our forefathers would have been incapable. Go to our descendants, along with those still more pernicious works which reek of the corrupted manners the present age! Let them together convey to posterity a faithful history of the progress and advantages of our arts and sciences. If they are read, they will not leave a doubt about the question we are now discussing, and unless mankind should then be still more foolish than we, they will lift up their hands to Heaven and exclaim in bitterness of heart: ‘Almighty God! Thou who holdest in Thy hand the minds of men, deliver us from the fatal arts and sciences of our forefathers; give us back the ignorance, innocence, and poverty, which alone can make us happy and are precious in Thy sight.’ (Rousseau, p 26-27)

* If we consider the frightful disorder which printing has already caused in Europe, and judge of the future by the progress of its evils from day to day, it is easy to foresee that sovereigns will hereafter take as much pains to banish this dreadful art from their dominions, as they ever took to encourage it. The Sultan Achmet, yielding to the opportunities of certain pretenders to taste, consented to have a press erected at Constantinople; but it was hardly set to work before they were obliged to destroy it, and throw the plant into a well.

It is related that the Caliph Omar, being asked what should be done with the Library at Alexandria, answered in these words: ‘If the books in the library contain anything contrary to the Alcoran, they are evil and ought to be burnt; if they contain only what the Alcoran teaches, they are superflous.’ This reasoning has been cited by our men of letters as the height of absurdity; but if Gregory the Great had been in place of Omar and the Gospel in the place of the Alcoran, the library would still have been burnt, and it would have been perhaps the finest action of his life. (Rousseau, p 26-27)

Rousseau, Jean-Jaques. The Social Contract and Discourses. Trans. G.D.H. Cole, Rev. J.H. Brumfitt and John C. Hall. London: Guernsey Press, 1973.

Thomas Hobbes, and later John Locke, are philosophers who established philosophical ideals that are the basis for Modern Western Civilization. Rousseau, it is argued, establishes a philosophical basis for Marxism - - something Miller appears to emulate with Death of a Salesman. The rhetoric of Marxists in politics often use the idea of a social contract and the term itself to promote the quasi-religious ideals they worship. Marxists, in a sense, worship the ideals of a dead Karl Marx like some Christians worship the image of a dead Jesus.

The political Left often holds to the view of Rousseau, cited above. They eschew the advancement of science and of the arts. It is no wonder that in their pursuit to dominate academia, that the decline of education in the West has been a victim of the political Left. Is it any wonder that the modern Left opposes U.S. military action in the war against terrorism, hates the Jews and Israel, as well as supports the Palestinians and terrorism?

113 posted on 04/25/2002 5:06:47 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: MaeWest
No one is forcing anyone to listen to Savage

The availability of radio more to their liking is no what these folks are about. They don' want other people to be allowed to listen to politically uncorrect things on the radio.

114 posted on 04/25/2002 5:16:52 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: betty boop;scan58;Libertina;Musket;Dengar01;Vigilant1;Salvation; geezerette;grlfrnd;section9...
betty boop hit a homerun here:

Hey P! Looks like we need to start a Coalition Against the Coalition Against Hate Radio. They think like the Islamicist fundies: All heat and no light.

Actually, they think like the "progressivist revolutionaries" they actually are (as are the Islamicist fundies, for that matter). They will not rest until the world can be "perfected" according to the requirements of their deranged view of reality.

That is, just as Karl Marx insisted, there can be no hold-outs against the "truths" of their Second Reality; no questions are permitted that might contradict the Received Wisdom; all resisters are to be classified as the "enemy" and given no quarter.

Consider this from Jean-Jaques Rousseau:

…Paganism, though given over to all the extravagances of human reason, has left nothing to compare with the shameful monuments which have been prepared by the art of printing, during the reign of the gospel. The impious writings of Leucippus and Diagoras perished with their authors. The world, in their days, was ignorant of the art of immortalizing the errors and extravagances of the human mind. But thanks to the art of printing* and the use we make of it, the pernicious reflections of Hobbes and Spinoza will last forever. Go, famous writings, of which the ignorance and rusticity of our forefathers would have been incapable. Go to our descendants, along with those still more pernicious works which reek of the corrupted manners the present age! Let them together convey to posterity a faithful history of the progress and advantages of our arts and sciences. If they are read, they will not leave a doubt about the question we are now discussing, and unless mankind should then be still more foolish than we, they will lift up their hands to Heaven and exclaim in bitterness of heart: ‘Almighty God! Thou who holdest in Thy hand the minds of men, deliver us from the fatal arts and sciences of our forefathers; give us back the ignorance, innocence, and poverty, which alone can make us happy and are precious in Thy sight.’ (Rousseau, p 26-27)

* If we consider the frightful disorder which printing has already caused in Europe, and judge of the future by the progress of its evils from day to day, it is easy to foresee that sovereigns will hereafter take as much pains to banish this dreadful art from their dominions, as they ever took to encourage it. The Sultan Achmet, yielding to the opportunities of certain pretenders to taste, consented to have a press erected at Constantinople; but it was hardly set to work before they were obliged to destroy it, and throw the plant into a well.

It is related that the Caliph Omar, being asked what should be done with the Library at Alexandria, answered in these words: ‘If the books in the library contain anything contrary to the Alcoran, they are evil and ought to be burnt; if they contain only what the Alcoran teaches, they are superflous.’ This reasoning has been cited by our men of letters as the height of absurdity; but if Gregory the Great had been in place of Omar and the Gospel in the place of the Alcoran, the library would still have been burnt, and it would have been perhaps the finest action of his life. (Rousseau, p 26-27)

Rousseau, Jean-Jaques. The Social Contract and Discourses. Trans. G.D.H. Cole, Rev. J.H. Brumfitt and John C. Hall. London: Guernsey Press, 1973.

Thomas Hobbes, and later John Locke, are philosophers who established philosophical ideals that are the basis for Modern Western Civilization. Rousseau, it is argued, establishes a philosophical basis for Marxism - - the rhetoric of Marxists in politics often use the idea of a social contract and the term itself to promote the quasi-religious ideals they worship. Marxists, in a sense, worship the ideals of a dead Karl Marx like some Christians worship the image of a dead Jesus.

The political Left often holds to the view of Rousseau, cited above. They eschew the advancement of science and of the arts. It is no wonder that in their pursuit to dominate academia, that the decline of education in the West has been a victim of the political Left. Is it any wonder that the modern Left opposes U.S. military action in the war against terrorism, hates the Jews and Israel, as well as supports the Palestinians and terrorism?

Now consider these words of Thomas Hobbes' in Leviathan:

Part III. Of a Christian Commonwealth.

Chap. xxxviii. Of Eternal Life, Hell, Salvation, and Redemption.

[12] And first, for the tormentors, we have their nature and properties exactly and properly delivered by the names of the Enemy (or Satan), the Accuser (or Diabolus), the Destroyer (or Abaddon). Which significant names (Satan, Devil, Abaddon) set not forth to us any individual person, as proper names do, but only an office or quality, and are therefore appellatives, which ought not to have been left untranslated (as they are in the Latin and modern Bibles), because thereby they seem to be the proper names of demons, and men are the more easily seduced to believe the doctrine of devils, which at that time was the religion of the Gentiles, and contrary to that of Moses, and of Christ.

[13] And because by the Enemy, the Accuser, and Destroyer, is meant the enemy of them that shall be in the kingdom of God, therefore if the kingdom of God after the resurrection be upon the earth (as in the former Chapter I have shewn by Scripture it seems to be), the Enemy and his kingdom must be on earth also. For so also was it in the time before the Jews had deposed God. For God's kingdom was in Palestine, and the nations round about were the kingdoms of the Enemy; and consequently, by Satan is meant any earthly enemy of the Church. (Hobbes p 308)

Hobbes, Thomas. Leviathan: with selected variants from the Latin edition of 1668. Ed. Edwin Curley. Indianapolis: Hackett, 1994.

Does anyone see the corollary?

115 posted on 04/25/2002 5:40:21 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
BTW, he is the biggest show in San Francisco if that tells you anything.

There's hope? :^)

I wish I could get him here on the "Other Left Coast".

116 posted on 04/25/2002 6:16:01 AM PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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To: LoneGOPinCT
He's on 350 stations...he's also on the web. Someone posted a link on this thread last night...
117 posted on 04/25/2002 7:26:26 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Harley - Mississippi
Well bud, just because he obviously made a fool of you when you called in doesn't mean that he is unoriginal, tedious and boring...BTW, he's the fastest growing show in the country and has around 3 million listeners a week. I guess quite a few people would disagree with your opinion. I know I do...go gargle with Rogaine and grow hair on your tongue, or something.
118 posted on 04/25/2002 7:33:02 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Nogbad
LOL. So true, all these people call him names such as a blowhard. He does a helluva lot more for this country than any of these FReepers.
119 posted on 04/25/2002 7:33:57 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: B Knotts
Not as bad as I thought, but much improvement needed.
120 posted on 04/25/2002 7:56:41 AM PDT by conserve-it
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