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"California Republicans may be on the verge of a remarkable comeback"-- L. Nofziger
Lyn Nofziger's "Musings" ^ | 4/9/02 | Lyn Nofziger

Posted on 04/28/2002 11:33:29 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast

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To: Gophack
The vocal minority of pro-aborts is [motivated by] guilt. They need the assurance that they aren't murderers

There's a lot of wisdom in your #50, I think. Well-put.

Dan
The Bible and the Bull's-Eye on the Baby

81 posted on 05/01/2002 12:22:39 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: helmsman
When I see this being done in every school, it will be moot.

How many schools have you seen it being done in, so far, in your extensive research on the subject and wide-ranging tour of CA public schools?

As far as it being wise politically, perhaps we'll soon find out one way or another.

Yes perhaps. Although if not I'm not going to blame any particular candidate too much over it.

And good luck in your efforts to reduce your tax burden, or cut welfare, or whatever it is that motivates you to go to the polls.

The answer is, Getting good people elected.

82 posted on 05/01/2002 1:32:08 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank
How many schools have you seen it being done in, so far, in your extensive research on the subject and wide-ranging tour of CA public schools?

I'm not expertly aware of the biology curriculum in California public schools, never said I was. I said that if this was not being done, it should be. Remember? (#77)

The answer is, Getting good people elected.

Hopefully, good people will use whatever power they have to reduce abortions. For example, a governor could advocate informed consent laws or a PBA ban, even if he didn't touch my ideas. If Simon were to do either of these things, there would be no blame coming from me. I would praise him, in fact.

83 posted on 05/01/2002 1:51:18 PM PDT by helmsman
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To: helmsman
I said that if this was not being done, it should be. Remember?

Yes, I remember, but I'm thinking of the Big Picture. Let's summarize. You're criticizing Simon for Not Doing Certain Stuff. One thing you think he Should Be Doing is Suggesting Certain Programs. But when pressed, you've admitted you don't actually know whether these programs are already implemented - you just throw your hands in the air and blithely say "well if they're not, they should be!"

Uh, ok, but then what the heck is your basis for criticizing Simon? You're criticizing him for not suggesting stuff which may or may not actually be needed? The mind boggles.

If Simon were to do either of these things, there would be no blame coming from me. I would praise him, in fact.

Noted. Best,

84 posted on 05/01/2002 2:14:17 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank
Let's summarize. You're criticizing Simon for Not Doing Certain Stuff. One thing you think he Should Be Doing is Suggesting Certain Programs. But when pressed, you've admitted you don't actually know whether these programs are already implemented - you just throw your hands in the air and blithely say "well if they're not, they should be!"

I suggested that, as part of an overall public awareness effort, school children be taught fetal development using an array of modern techniques, tools, and methods. The nature of the public school system being what it is, with details of any particular curriculum likely to vary from school district to school district, it is unreasonable to suggest that anyone who advocates this particular policy be required to check in with each and every one of them to find out if they are each already teaching it in the precise manner I support. Instead, I simply call for it to be standard across the many school districts.

Uh, ok, but then what the heck is your basis for criticizing Simon? You're criticizing him for not suggesting stuff which may or may not actually be needed? The mind boggles.

A PBA ban is needed, crisis pregnancy center funding is needed, public awareness campaigns are needed. What is your point? I criticize Simon only because he has not shown a willing to champion any of these issues. Should that change, my criticism will stop. Is that alright? It may come as a shock, but I expect pro-life politicians to do what they can to advance the cause. All of the above would be in his purview as governor. If he does any of these things, I will be a Simon fan.

85 posted on 05/01/2002 3:02:47 PM PDT by helmsman
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If he does any of these things, I will be a Simon fan.

Noted.

86 posted on 05/01/2002 3:18:30 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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