"California Republicans may be on the verge of a remarkable comeback"-- L. Nofziger

Lyn Nofziger's "Musings" ^ | 4/9/02 | Lyn Nofziger

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Go Simon!

[RightOnTheLeftCoast]

Ping... and bring all your friends. Nice little op-ed from a couple weeks ago; don't see it posted.

[helmsman]

The man he beat in the primary, Richard Riordan, who could be a major help in raising money, has passed the word that he will not help unless Simon reverses his position on abortion.

Riordan is such an abortion-loving slobbering geezer, it makes me sick. He should go retire his flabby country club ass already, and ease my pain.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if Simon officially reverses his stance on abortion. He's already done it unofficially!

[CyberAnt]

"Simon has unofficially changed his stance on abortion"

Your proof please!! Because I have read every speech he gave, and there is no way he has changed his stance on abortion.

[GraniteStateConservative]

He said that it's not an issue because abortion is legal by statute in California-- actually I think Reagan was governor at the time.

[Conservative til I die]

I think the President will betray Simon in favor of his buddy. Either that, or he'll poo-poo his endorsement in glittering generalities in fear of angering the pro-baby killing voters.

[helmsman]

He has adopted a strategy of "changing the subject" when it comes to abortion, and insisting that it is a "settled issue" that he, as governor, will have no power over. That means that he supports the status quo, and the status quo is pro-abortion. Of course, he claims to be pro-life so that the mind-numbed single issue pro-lifers will still vote for him, but he doesn't intend to lift a finger to stop one abortion, by his own veiled admission. And there are plenty of things a governor could do to discourage abortion and create cultural change. But Simon is apparently not interested.

[linn37]

HUH?

[Dog Gone]

Bush is coming out to California in the next couple of days for a Simon fundraiser. I think the White House is committed to getting Simon elected.

[CyberAnt]

"insisting that it is a "settled issue" that he, as governor, will have no power over."

Simon's right - it's a federal law and as Governor, he has no control over the FEDERAL LAWS - whether he agrees with them or not.

and

"That means that he supports the status quo, and the status quo is pro-abortion."

To say - because he won't discuss the issue means he supports it - is the liberal way out. You're insinuating he supports it because he's tried to make it a NON-issue.

and

"there are plenty of things a governor could do to discourage abortion and create cultural change. But Simon is apparently not interested"

If you're so sure there are things he can do as GOVERNOR, that's fine - BUT HE'S NOT GOVERNOR NOW!! And ... NOW, it's a NON-issue. That doesn't mean that Simon has no intention of making it an issue ONCE HE IS ELECTED. And ... do you know for a fact that he will or will not make it an issue?? NO, YOU DON'T - AND YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO STIR UP STUFF BY SAYING SIMON IS SUPPORTING ABORTION - WHEN HE'S CLEARLY NOT!!! You are doing people a disservice by being so narrow minded on this issue.

[Dog Gone]

One-issue voters are a pox on any party.

Governor Davis wants this election to be about abortion instead of his own dismal record. Some misguided conservatives agree with him.

[linn37]

I think the poster missed the news story where Bush is going to Ca. to raise 4 mil for Simon.

[Conservative til I die]

Read the article. Parsky, a Bush man in CA, will not play ball with Simon. With the President selling out the party left and right domestically, why would it be any different this time.

[Balding_Eagle]

These are probably the same people who attacked GWB on 'his pro-abortion' stance. They raced into hiding a month or two back when GWB came out with his strong support of an anti-abortion issie of some kind (I forget just what it was because I don't follow that issue too close).

Stymied by their iability to tear down the President, they now are casting about to see which other Republican they can smear.

Evil show its face in many ways, helmsman was just showing one of those ways.

[Paulie]

re: post#10

You said what I was thinking, and better than I was about to say it.

[helmsman]

Simon's right - it's a federal law and as Governor, he has no control over the FEDERAL LAWS - whether he agrees with them or not.

There are a couple of Supreme Court decisions that mandate abortion's legality, of course, but even those allow for restrictions and other regulations on the practice. The Casey decision, for example, allows for parental notice and informed consent regulations. The least Simon could do is commit to aggressively pursuing these popular policies. But he runs.

To say - because he won't discuss the issue means he supports it - is the liberal way out. You're insinuating he supports it because he's tried to make it a NON-issue.

Same thing. If he won't work to change the status quo, and he won't, then he may as well support it.

And ... do you know for a fact that he will or will not make it an issue?? NO, YOU DON'T

YES I DO!!! I was not born yesterday, CyberAnt. If he is now assuring the "moderates" that he will do nothing about abortion as the governor of that state, then he will do just that. He will not tackle the abortion issue for one of two reasons. Either he does not care about the issue, or he is a coward who does not wish to take the political risk. Either way, he is useless to those of us who want to stop abortion. And there are plenty of non-restrictive policies that could be put in place right now, by either the state or federal governments, that would break the back of the abortion culture. That's all I ever ask for. I'm not asking for a total abortion ban tomorrow, I simply want the government actively and aggressively discouraging abortion for now. That's all. If that makes me an unreasonable extremist, then it's time for me to run naked through my neighborhood screaming at the top of my lungs.

Respectfully,
The Evil One

[NormsRevenge]

Some poll says it is DeViou$ by a couple of points .. I Love IT!!!

A Real Horse Race for a change ... We Are Blessed :-)





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Norm

[CyberAnt]

But ... you seem to forget one thing - SIMON'S NOT PART OF THE GOVERNMENT! If he's not in a position of authority which allows him to do something about the abortion issue - then why are you so intent on blaming him for doing nothing - when in fact he cannot do anything UNTIL HE'S GOVERNOR!

I just don't understand why you don't understand this.

[CyberAnt]

Thanks - I get a little hot when people try to blame Simon for things he not responsible for YET!

[Dr. Frank fan]

He has adopted a strategy of "changing the subject" when it comes to abortion, and insisting that it is a "settled issue" that he, as governor, will have no power over.

That's not a "strategy", it's the truth. Are you familiar with our system of government and the recent history of Supreme Court decisions relating to the issue of abortion?