[stainlessbanner]

I don't agree with the "other guys are doing it" argument. Davis and the CSA government had its faults, no doubt, but that is no excuse for Lincoln to disregard habeus corpus and the US Constitution. The questions are about Lincoln and his government, not Davis and the CSA.

[ravinson]

I don't agree with the "other guys are doing it" argument. Davis and the CSA government had its faults, no doubt, but that is no excuse for Lincoln to disregard habeus corpus and the US Constitution.

Disregarding habeus corpus during a rebellion is Constitutional (see Art. I, Sect. 9), and any argument that Congress alone had that power is defeated by their firm appoval of Lincoln's action.

[Non-Sequitur]

I don't agree with the "other guys are doing it" argument. Davis and the CSA government had its faults, no doubt, but that is no excuse for Lincoln to disregard habeas corpus and the US Constitution. The questions are about Lincoln and his government, not Davis and the CSA.

I don't understand your reasoning at all. 'Davis and his government had its faults...'? Lincoln's alleged violations of the U.S. Constitution are nothing compared with those of Davis. Davis deliberately did away with one of the three branches of government his constitution called for. Lincoln never contemplated anything remotely resembling that. If any of Lincoln's actions were constitutionally questionable then I have no problems discussing them. But my God, ignoring the actions of Davis when they were so much worse than Lincoln's is the height of hypocrisy.

[amused]

I don't agree with the "other guys are doing it" argument. Davis and the CSA government had its faults, no doubt, but that is no excuse for Lincoln to disregard habeus corpus and the US Constitution. The questions are about Lincoln and his government, not Davis and the CSA.

I would agree with this line of thinking if the undercurrent of thought of Lincoln detractors/Confederates was not that the world would have been a better place(more freedom, a real republic etc) if the two had gone their seperate ways. That seems to be the vibe I get off most postings I read as a lurker(I leave the arguing to those much more qualified). To hold up one as a shining example against the darkness of the other comes off a bit hollow when both are the same color. We need to get the real history out there, warts and all, for both sides.

[Aurelius]

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