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White House reverses [decades old] stand on right to bear arms
Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, May 8 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/08/2002 11:57:58 AM PDT by Patriotman

White House reverses stand on right to bear arms

Associated Press

Washington — Reversing decades of Justice Department policy, the Bush administration has told the Supreme Court that it believes the Constitution protects an individual's right to possess firearms.

At the same time, the administration's top Supreme Court lawyer said the case need not test that principle now.

The administration's view represents a reversal of government interpretations of the Second Amendment going back some 40 years.

"The current position of the United States ... is that the Second Amendment more broadly protects the rights of individuals, including persons who are not members of any militia or engaged in active military service or training, to possess and bear their own firearms," Solicitor-General Theodore Olson wrote in two court filings this week.

That right, however, is "subject to reasonable restrictions designed to prevent possession by unfit persons or to restrict the possession of types of firearms that are particularly suited to criminal misuse."

Mr. Olson, the administration's top Supreme Court lawyer, was reflecting the view of Attorney-General John Ashcroft that the Second Amendment confers the right to "keep and bear arms" to private citizens and not merely to the "well-regulated militia" mentioned in the amendment's text.

Mr. Ashcroft caused a stir when he expressed a similar sentiment a year ago in a letter to the National Rifle Association.

"While some have argued that the Second Amendment guarantees only a 'collective' right of the states to maintain militias, I believe the amendment's plain meaning and original intent prove otherwise," Mr. Ashcroft wrote.

Critics accused him of kowtowing to the gun lobby and of undermining federal prosecutors by endorsing a legal view 180 degrees away from what has been official Justice Department policy through four Democratic and five Republican administrations.

At the time that Mr. Ashcroft wrote the letter, it was unclear whether he was expressing his personal view or stating a new policy position for the government. That question was mostly answered last November, when he sent a letter to federal prosecutors praising an appellate court's decision that found "the Second Amendment does protect individual rights" but noting that those rights could be subject to "limited, narrowly tailored specific exceptions."

That opinion by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals went on to reject arguments from Texas physician Timothy Emerson that a 1994 federal gun law was unconstitutional. The law was intended to deny guns to people under judicial restraining orders.

"In my view, the Emerson opinion, and the balance it strikes, generally reflect the correct understanding of the Second Amendment," Mr. Ashcroft told prosecutors.

Mr. Emerson appealed to the Supreme Court, putting the Justice Department in an awkward position. Although the government won its case in the lower court using the old interpretation of the Second Amendment, Mr. Ashcroft had switched gears by the time the case reached the high court.

Mr. Olson's court filing on Monday urged the Supreme Court not to get involved and acknowledged the policy change in a lengthy footnote. Mr. Olson also attached Mr. Ashcroft's letter to prosecutors.

Mr. Olson made the same notation in a separate case involving a man convicted of owning two machine guns in violation of federal law. In that case, the government also won a lower-court decision endorsing a federal gun-control law.

The Justice Department issued a statement Tuesday night saying its latest comments reflect the Attorney-General's position in the November letter to prosecutors.

"This action is proof positive that the worst fears about Attorney-General Ashcroft have come true: His extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy," said Michael Barnes, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which promotes gun control.

Mr. Barnes noted that other federal appeals courts and the Supreme Court have not found the same protection for individual gun ownership that the 5th Circuit asserted in the Emerson case.

The Supreme Court last ruled on the scope of the Second Amendment in 1939, when it said the clause protects only those rights that have "some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well-regulated militia."


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To: hellinahandcart
What a relief, it's only the same leftist bleat about the White House "reversing decades of policy" by insisting that the Second Amendment means the same thing today as when it was written.

Nope,it's the White House doing their damndest to make sure nobody pays any attention to the meaning of the second amendment.

101 posted on 05/08/2002 4:25:28 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Patriotman
It said the prohibition on gun ownership by someone subject to a domestic violence restraining order was such a reasonable exception, a view that Olson also endorsed in urging that the Supreme Court not to review the case.

Yup,this is spin worthy of Carville. Bubba-2 and company are trying to convince everybody they stand by the second amendment,while making sure they maintain the ability to violate everybody's rights.

102 posted on 05/08/2002 4:28:23 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: The KG9 Kid
Personally, I believe that this was an attempt by the Justice Department to derail Emerson vs. The United States before it's heard by the Supreme Court.

Yup,that is EXACTLY what it is. Thank you for thinking,and seeing past the spin.

103 posted on 05/08/2002 4:30:07 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: MeeknMing
Homeland security bump.
104 posted on 05/08/2002 4:34:03 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: sneakypete
What are you going to do if the US S.Ct. hears Emerson, takes up the issue of the meaning of the Second Amendment and rules it doesn't describe an individual right?

What are you going to do then?

That's why such is a risky strategy.

105 posted on 05/08/2002 4:34:10 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: 45Auto
What I want to see from Pres. Bush on the RKBA issue is a firm statement that the 1994 federal assault weapons ban is unconstitutional and will therefore not be enforced until it sunsets in 2004.

You won't see this because one of Bubba-2's campaign pledges was that he would sign legislation to make the so-called Assault Weapons Ban permanent if congress passed and sent it to him. Don't forget,it was his father who closed the machine gun registry,banned the importation of foreign military weapons,banned high capacity magazines,etc,etc,etc. Bush-1 signed and used executive orders to pass more gun laws than any other president I am aware of,including Carter AND Clinton.

106 posted on 05/08/2002 4:34:11 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Nope. This brief weakens the government's argument if it ever tries to defend those laws.

No one is stopping you from breaking a federal gun law and going to SCOTUS over it. This doesn't prevent that in any way, and in fact it strengthens your case.

107 posted on 05/08/2002 4:35:21 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: sneakypete
Bush-1 signed and used executive orders to pass more gun laws than any other president I am aware of,including Carter AND Clinton.

Telling the truth here won't win you any friends. 3 or 4 years ago, yes, but not today.

108 posted on 05/08/2002 4:36:58 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: caisson71
What is this "decade old stance"? Eight miserable years does not a decade make!

Bush-1 was a bigger gun-control freak than Clinton. He even used executive orders to pass gun laws he knew wouldn't pass Congress.

109 posted on 05/08/2002 4:37:16 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: arkfreepdom
Rush mentioned this today...Good work by the Bush administration.

That must have hurt Rusho.

You really think so?...........

110 posted on 05/08/2002 4:39:52 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: stands2reason
The marxists (shh) Constitutionalists on this forum will continue to straighten you out about this fact.

Sober up,THINK about what was actually going on,and then get back to us.

111 posted on 05/08/2002 4:40:30 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Patriotman
"The administration's view represents a reversal of government interpretations of the Second Amendment going back some 40 years."

Ah, for some reason, all the antigunners think that precedent somehow starts after FDR's term(s) of office, conveniently forgetting that there are almost 150 years of legal precedents IN FAVOR of an individual RKBA before that "policy" was implemented. All this is is a reversion to the ORIGINAL interpretation of the Second Amendment.

112 posted on 05/08/2002 4:45:44 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: stands2reason
No, just there are some marxists on this forum that are posing as constitutionalists in order to crush the Republican Party.

Why would the Marxists even bother,when Bubba-2 and the RINO's in the RNC are doing such a fine job for them?

113 posted on 05/08/2002 4:49:09 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: MeeknMing
Hi Meekie, thanks so much for the ping!!!!
114 posted on 05/08/2002 4:52:04 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Brownie74
BUMP your post! Good one Brownie.
115 posted on 05/08/2002 4:56:09 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Ok pete.. so now your smarter than Ted Olsen ~or~ President Bush?? Come on!!!

Well,I don't know about Olsen,but I do have a higher IQ than Bush. "Smart" has nothing to do with this,though. Both are plenty smart enough to know what they are doing,which is being deceitful. They are just posing,not doing anything meaningful.

116 posted on 05/08/2002 4:57:31 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: The Old Hoosier
I agree - this and the ICC pull-out were both a huge relief to me. Contrary to what many Bush-lovers think, I am relieved when I can finally agree with this Administration. I wonder when they will reverse themeslves and these issues?
117 posted on 05/08/2002 4:58:47 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: spqrzilla9
What are you going to do then?

I'm going to continue to do what I'm doing now,and no un-Constitutional/illegal law they pass will change this. They could call for a total confiscation of all weapons tomorrow,and nothing would change because I wouldn't turn any of my guns over. If they want them,let them come take them.

118 posted on 05/08/2002 5:01:04 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: The Old Hoosier
Finally, something we can be proud of Dubya about. This, cloning, and the ICC withdrawl.

Let us not forget Tax Cuts and the death of Kyoto and the War on Terrorism and Missle Defense and.....Bush is not perfect, but he is damn good.

119 posted on 05/08/2002 5:02:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: sneakypete
Sneaky, you've given me pause in the middle of my hope! I'm going to have to look at this more carefully.
120 posted on 05/08/2002 5:03:04 PM PDT by agrandis
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