White House reverses [decades old] stand on right to bear arms

Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, May 8 | Associated Press

[conserve-it]

E mail me when Bush passes LEGISLATION. I no longer believe a single word he utters.

[FastCoyote]

I will add one gold star for GW, it has been a while.

[fire_eye]

I'm an NRA Lifer, here. Hasn't Bush said that he will extend it if Congress brings him a bill?

I seem to recall that, but regardless, that's what I expect he'll do unless he faces a *very real* threat of losing the election if he does it.

So, we need to set about producing such a threat.

On the one hand, Ashcroft's pronouncements re. RKBA are a good opening salvo, and a useful way to soften up the opposition before hammering them with actual legislation. On the other hand, does this administration intend any actual legislation (or relief from existing legislation), or are pronouncements and opinions all we'll see from them?

Thus far, as far as action vs. words goes vis-a-vis RKBA, all we've seen them do is refuse to let commercial pilots defend us from terrorists...

[rwfromkansas]

For the third time, you people (more like you stupid freaks) are negative on EVERY SINGLE THING Bush does. There are some things to be upset about, but there is something to consider about this particular issue with is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR VICTORY FOR THE RIGHT!!.....RONALD REAGAN HIMSELF DID NOT REVERSE THIS POLICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[conserve-it]

"For the third time, you people (more like you stupid freaks) are negative on EVERY SINGLE THING Bush does. There are some things to be upset about, but there is something to consider about this particular issue with is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR VICTORY FOR THE RIGHT!!.....RONALD REAGAN HIMSELF DID NOT REVERSE THIS POLICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

WHERE IS THE LEGISLATION? WHERE DID BUSH BACK OUR STAND IN LAW? YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A REAL VICTORY FOR THE RIGHT IF YOU TRIPPED OVER IT.

[conserve-it]

Thank you.

[ohioWfan]

Again, you people can't ever see anything as positive, but only see a conspiracy to screw conservatives.

Of course not. I read this thread just to see if there were one unqualified positive comment from the regular bashers around here.

It didn't happen, of course. That would mean they'd have to be happy about something, and they live to be mad.....especially at Bush.

This is good news. Bush has done what Reagan did not.

[Jen]

Great news. Thanks for the ping, Tonk.

[MissAmericanPie]

Don't forget he just removed us from the U.N. criminal court quagmire. Rush today was saying that a general could be brought before the court for digging too many fox holes, or damaging the environment more than is reasonably neccessary in battle. So this week Bush is two for two in the plus column with me.

I still can't bear to watch him on tv, afraid I might see him hug another terrorist, but this week he's done good.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

"Only under "liberal" Bush has it now changed."

Dang..if thats "liberal" of him.. then I hope he continues the trend!!!

As the owners of guns and obviously advocates for the right to bear arms.. We applaud this.

[Southack]

"This is good news. But what's so extreme about Ashcroft's stance? Clearly it is those who wish to ban guns and eliminate the right to own them are the extremists. Enforcing a plain reading of the Constitution, while accepting that certain limits exist is a very moderate approach. To the leftists, black is white and right is wrong. They are insane. Ashcroft's view is obviously a moderate one."

That's quote of the day material.

[The Old Hoosier]

Yes, I mentioned it: cloning, icc and RKBA. That makes up, to some degree, for CFR (as long as the court takes care of it).

But dammit, this Farm Bill is a total outrage. Bush should be trying to cut back the govt. We need to put more pressure on him.

[Eagle Eye]

Makes it rather easy for you to say anything you want without evidence.

[Rowdee]

'Cuse me, a*****e, who died and left you in charge of determining whether someone posts something positive or negative about an article? You're awfully full of yourself, buster....what'd you do, eat a bunch of beans? Arrogant, ignorant a*****e!!!

Braindead, why don't you read the friggin article....it wasn't me that reported what Olson did! And if it holds up and the SC don't act on it, then the Bush administration deserves nothing but scorn! You don't like that....its called tough s**t, buster! At least have the decency to realize it wasn't me that wrote the damn arguments!

For the record, Braindead.....the article said how many Demo administrations and how many Republican administrations have let this slide.....it ain't my fault the friggin President's administration is called the Bush Administration and if they let this issue slide they would become the sixth, 6th!!

Take a clue, Birdbrain.....YOU BROUGHT UP REAGAN......have you realized yet the Republicans are no different than the Democrats on this issue? Matter of fact, 4 vs 5 [6] would appear to make the Republicans worse for anyone who believes in the right to keep and bear arms!! Duh!!

[MeekOneGOP]

Reversing decades of Justice Department policy, the Bush administration has told the
Supreme Court that it believes the Constitution protects an individual's right to possess firearms.

Well, Tonk, this sounds like pretty good news, FRiend! :O)
Did ya see this?.........

"This action is proof positive that the worst fears about Attorney-General Ashcroft have
come true: His extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy," said Michael
Barnes, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which promotes gun control.

Looks like we got 'em on the run! LOL!
Thanks for the ping, FRiend! :O)

[MeekOneGOP]

White House reverses [decades old] stand on right to bear arms

Excerpt:

Reversing decades of Justice Department policy, the Bush administration has told the
Supreme Court that it believes the Constitution protects an individual's right to possess firearms............

"This action is proof positive that the worst fears about Attorney-General Ashcroft have
come true: His extreme ideology on guns has now become government policy," said Michael
Barnes, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which promotes gun control.

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my ping list!. . .don't be shy.

[sneakypete]

Mr. Olson's court filing on Monday urged the Supreme Court not to get involved and acknowledged the policy change in a lengthy footnote. Mr. Olson also attached Mr. Ashcroft's letter to prosecutors.

Here is yet another example of Bubba Bush and Janet Ashcroft being too cute for words. They are trying to act like Constiutional thinkers,while at the same time telling the Supreme Court to not take a case that would overturn federal gun laws. They are terrified the whole un-Constitutional gun control house of cards will come tumbling down over their ears.

When will these idiots learn that all talking out both sides of your mouth accomplishes is getting both sides mad at you. The gun-control feaks are having fainting spells over Ashcroft's pose,while anybody oppossed to gun-control who thinks about this for a minute will realize what Ashcroft and Bubba-2 are really doing is selling us down the river.

[MeekOneGOP]

It ain't ending, but if ya missed this, thought you'd like to see it. :O)

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

Ok pete.. so now your smarter than Ted Olsen ~or~ President Bush?? Come on!!!

Paranoia doesn't look good on you!

Your just gun shy from the Clinton administration!!! (pun intended)

[sneakypete]

Finally, something we can be proud of Dubya about. This, cloning, and the ICC withdrawl.

Stop and think for a minute about what he has REALLY done,not what spin says he has done. He is doing his best to torpedo a case that would most likely serve as a basis for overturning ALL federal gun-control laws. Janet Ashcroft's "letter of intent" isn't binding in any way,and means less than nothing to any future AG who replaces him. On the other hand,a modern Supreme Court ruling that clearly states the federal government does NOT have a legal right to restrict the ownership or possession of arms by citizens would be grounds to overturn GCA-68,the Assault Weapons Ban,and every other federal gun law. The plain FACT is the federal government does NOT have the right to restrict ownership or possession of firearms by citizens in ANY way. Bubba Bush and Janet Ashcroft are working hard to try and make sure this never happens.