White House reverses [decades old] stand on right to bear arms

Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, May 8 | Associated Press

[kitchen]

An astute observation. Thanks.

[The People and Senate of Rome?!?]

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Jump over here.

[stands2reason]

You must be reading a different thread than I am....

[The Old Hoosier]

OK, OK. ;) I mean lately, though.

[Hard Case]

Well, if they are posing as Constitutionalists, it will all come out in the wash.

[texicano]

Can any one tell me when the assault rifle ban is up for renewal? I think that will tell us more than anything else as to where Bush stands

[PatrickHenry]

From the lead article:
The Supreme Court last ruled on the scope of the Second Amendment in 1939, when it said the clause protects only those rights that have "some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well-regulated militia."

That is a reference to United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), which can be found here: United States v. Miller.

The case is very far from being a gun control freak's license to regulate our weapons possession. The case upheld a law against individuals possessing sawed-off shotguns, but only because they were not military weapons. Among the significant things it says are these:

The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

[stand watie]

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[stand watie]

we MAY finally be at the point of getting some odf thew un-constitutional laws OFF the books! be of good cheer

for a FREE dixie,sw

[stand watie]

chuckie may be on his way OUT! i'd be glad to show him, teddy & all the other fascists/liberals/socialists the DOOR!

for dixie,sw

[Eagle Eye]

No, just there are some marxists on this forum that are posing as constitutionalists in order to crush the Republican Party. I'm sorry, you may not like it, but it's the truth.

Care to back up tht statement? Got anyone in mind?

[Mudboy Slim]

"...official Justice Department policy through four Democratic and five Republican administrations."

WOW!! I had no idea the Executive Branch had been misinterpreting the Second Amendment that long.

SHEEEESH!! Good for the Bush Administration, though...MUD

[stand watie]

the USSC did tell us that in a decision >50 years ago! it's just been IGNORED since then!

for dixie,sw

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

This is wonderful news,BUT!The part of this that says,"certain TYPES of firearms that can be possesed"leaves the door wide open to continue the semi-auto ban and ban others as well!

[Rowdee]

Olsen and Ashcroft have stated how Ashcroft feels....and yet Olsen is telling the court not to test the principle now in the cases he wrote arguments for.

So......nothing will change, apparently....it is possible that nothing will be said, and the 'law of the land' will continue hold sway thru 4 Democratic administrations and 6 Republican administrations (adding the current Bush admin to the list of do-nothing Republican admins, after all)

[stands2reason]

1. Not here, no way, and 2. yes, I do. One is already gone.

[45Auto]

I don't know if he actually said he would support an extension of that rotten, unconstitutional piece of crap. But I do know that he is in favor of AW bans; he published that opinion on his website during his campaign for pres. We need to 'educate' the man and LEAN ON HIM VERY HARD and also lobby the rotten miscreants in Congress to allow the law to sunset.

[rwfromkansas]

Think on this: even Reagan did not reverse this policy.

[rwfromkansas]

It really is true you people can NEVER see anything that Bush does as a positive.

[rwfromkansas]

Again, you people can't ever see anything as positive, but only see a conspiracy to screw conservatives.