The India-Pakistani Conflict... some background information-

Trans-Pacific Fallout

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Pakistan conducts a second missile test as international community struggles to ease tensions

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Here's that 300 Kt. fallout map- bear in mind the site hawks potassium iodide tablets & such, but the map looks authentic....

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British Military Preparing for Nuclear War Aftermath-India Situation 'Desperately Serious'

Fallout effects from Indi-Paki nuke exchange
PBS 'Map a Nuke Blast' Simulator

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Fallout here from nuke use in
Mid-East, Pakistan, India, Korea, Taiwan, China, Russia, etc.

If nukes are ever used by any of the warring participants over there, we could soon be in deep trouble over here, too, * even if * in the unlikely event we had managed somehow not to get involved and it all ended as quick as it began.

Few realize that shortly after any nuclear detonation anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere, we in the USA could be having their spent nukes radioactive fallout raining down on us here, too. Especially of concern, according to health physicists, will be plenty of thyroid contaminating radioactive iodine. All courtesy of the prevailing westerly trade winds blowing their nuclear fallout onto our shores a few days after any of them trade nuclear blasts with any of their neighbors.

The Nuclear War Survival Skills book (by Oak Ridge National Laboratory, 1979, a Facility of the U.S. Department of Energy, Updated and Expanded 1987 Edition) details the above and shows where a single, and very small, above ground Chinese nuclear test explosion ("a few hundred kilotons") on December 28, 1966 resulted in the fallout cloud covering most of the United States.

Cresson H. Kearny, the author of the above book, also states about this now declassifed incident:

"It produced fallout that by January 1, 1967 resulted in the fallout cloud covering most of the United States. This one Chinese explosion produced about 15 million curies of iodine- 131 - roughly the same amount as the total release of iodine- 131 into the atmosphere from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant disaster."
"Fallout from the approximately 300 kiloton Chinese test explosion shown in Fig. 1 caused milk from cows that fed on pastures near Oak Ridge, Tennessee and elsewhere to be contaminated with radioiodine, although not with enough to be hazardous to health."

"However, this milk contamination (up to 900 picocuries of radioactive iodine per liter) and the measured dose rates from the gamma rays emitted from fallout particles deposited in different parts of the United States indicate that trans-Pacific fallout from even an overseas nuclear war in which "only" two or three hundred megatons would be exploded could result in tens of thousands of unprepared Americans suffering thyroid injury."

"Perhaps the first nuclear war casualties in the United States will be caused by fallout from an overseas nuclear war in which our country is not a belligerent. As the number of nations with nuclear weapons increases - especially in the Middle East - this generally unrecognized danger to Americans will worsen."

"Trans-Pacific war fallout, carried to an America at peace by the prevailing west-to-east winds that blow around the world, could be several hundred times more dangerous to Americans than fallout from the worst possible overseas nuclear power reactor accident, and many times more dangerous than fallout from a very improbable U.S. nuclear power reactor accident as lethal as the disastrous Chernobyl accident was to Russians."

The following Declassified Fallout Map of the USA from this Chinese nuke fallout and a free on-line copy of the complete 280 page Nuclear War Survival Skills book are at the FAQ. (This book also covers and details preparations for much more than just the threat of radioiodine fallout, too.)

Also, commenting on the world health effects a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan would create, for example, Dr. Henry Kendall of the Union of Concerned Scientists said in October of 1999:

"It would be very similar to Cherynobl. But it could be on a substantially larger scale."

See the Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ for more details on the health concerns of radioactive iodine, especially to our children, and for lists and links to all known available formulations of radioiodine protective KI and KIO3 tablets, and you'll also see why about.com says the FAQ is the...

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THE central resource on the topic."

Bottom Line:

Most developed nations have already stockpiled KI or KIO3 tablets to protect their citizens from radioiodine, but the USA has only just begun. (They've been talking about it though for over 20 years! Ever since TMI!)
However, at this time, we can all still get it as a non-prescription for our own personal family protection.
That is, at least, until there's an 'incident' somewhere in the world because after Three Mile Island and Chernobyl all available KI and KIO3 supplies disappeared for months, almost overnight!

- Shane Connor
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Proud FreeRepublic member 'shanec' since 1998!

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NUCLEAR POKER - At the Brink in Kashmir

The next nuclear war

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If nuclear exchanges occur between Pakistan and India, look for a 10 to 20-year worldwide economic depression, replete with the emergence of tyrants and nationalistic conquering nation-states.


The next nuclear war


India Reports Heavy Fire With Pakistani Forces on Kashmir Cease-Fire Line, Border

Unless they use several dozen cobalt encased nukes, we don't have very much to worry about fallout in the U.S.

Remember, these two countries have only short-range, low-yeld nukes. Not the long-range, high-yeld nukes the U.S., Russia and China have. Though these are 'dirty' nukes, most of the fallout will happen in India and parts of southern China.

You're a little more worried than you should be.

You're a little more worried than you should be.

Just what do you base that statement on?

If India and Packistan went nuclear, in all likelyhood the fallout will not reach the U.S. Mainland. And what little radiation that would be left in the air after the fallout would probably no equal the amount of background radiation we get from the sun every day.

in all likelyhood the fallout will not reach the U.S. Mainland

You did see #45?

Yes and I disagree with it.

Using that study's threoies, we should have all been glowing in the dark 40 years ago from the nuke testing done outside of Vegas.

Actually, many did 'glow' a bit here...

Are you pointing to where your family lives?

National Cancer Institute Study Estimating Thyroid Doses of I-131
Received by Americans From Nevada Atmospheric Nuclear Bomb Tests

The NCI's 'worst case' estimate is that fallout from nuclear weapons
testing likely generated from 10,000 to 75,000 cases of thyroid cancer!

Executive Summary of that report here.

Also, remember, it's always the children who are at the highest risk of injury from radioactive iodine and eventually developing thyroid cancer from that exposure. Each year, more than 12,000 Americans find out they have thyroid cancer, though from various causes. About 1000 here in the U.S. die from it yearly.

-Shane Connor,
author of Potassium Iodide Anti-Radiation Pill FAQ

Thank you.

First of all Potassium Iodide ONLY protects you from thyroid cancer. There are a LOT worse cancers that radiation can give you.

Second thyroid cancer is treatable.

Third, IF your chart is correct, then you have proven that the study you posted earlier is incorrect. IF the study you posted was correct then that chart should read three times higher than it is.

And finally, I disagree with the study you posted.

Sorry, I thought you were backhoe. But your chart does goes against the study backhoe posted.