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To: Willie Green
"Many vendors refuse military business because they don't want to put up with the rules and regulations, but that changed with JDAM, Hatcher said."

This IS progress! So many government acquisitions are hindered by superfluous rules and regulations that the paperwork generally outweighs the product. Like a company that is not "qualified" to be a government supplier because thay don't have the requisite number of triplegic martians working for them.

Don't ever blame the vendor because the toilet seat cost over $600 or the claw hammer cost $1200. By the time the vendor got "qualified" to sell to the gubmint, he had to go through a bazillion non-productive hoops.

Here with JDAM, some of the sorry bureaucrats are getting their noses rubbed in the fact that it's a lot cheaper to go down to Ace Hardware and plunk down $20 and walk out with a hammer.

5 posted on 05/26/2002 2:34:58 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: nightdriver
Don't ever blame the vendor because the toilet seat cost over $600 or the claw hammer cost $1200. By the time the vendor got "qualified" to sell to the gubmint, he had to go through a bazillion non-productive hoops.
That's not exactly true. The reason you have $600 hammers is that the Pentagon procurement procedures are a pain in the ass. But those procedures also allow the defense contractor to put all that paperwork into the price of the hammer, and so make a 15% profit margin on the $600. That's a lot better (for the contractor) than making 15% on $6. If the contractors could make a higher profit margin on more cost effective systems, they would make efficient rather than gold-plated systems. But as long as the profit is fixed and low compared to private sector systems - Cisco's profit margin on some routers approaches infinity - you won't get more success stories like JDAM.
6 posted on 05/26/2002 3:00:42 PM PDT by eno_
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To: nightdriver; eno
The real story behind the $600 hammer is this. The hammer was part of a tool kit for the F-16 that includes some very expensive and special purpose test sets. The allowable overhead charges were allocated equally to each item in the tool kit. Since the allowable charges were just that, allowable, how these charges were allocated did not, in any case, change the price of the tool kit.

What this allocation did was make the hammer relatively expensive while making the test sets a bargin. Ah, you say, let's buy only the test sets. Fine, but the allowable charges remain the same and are re-allocated only to the test sets meaning you don't save squat.

The Pentagon solved this problem by prohibiting the allocation of costs based upon the number of items and prescribed that allowable costs be allocated based upon the price of the item. Means more math, but the price of the tool kit is the same.

The $600 hammer is a great story but it is a story of misrepresentation of facts by a few democratic politicians more intent on slashing the defense budget and bashing Reagan that it was a story on the stupidity of the Pentagon.

9 posted on 05/26/2002 3:29:59 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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