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Delaware Readies Nation's Toughest Smoking Ban/BARF ALERT
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| 28 May 2002
| Dennis Thompson Jr.
Posted on 05/29/2002 7:09:39 AM PDT by SheLion
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:09:39 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; JohnHuang2
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Each year, secondhand smoke in the United States is responsible for an estimated 35,000 to 40,000 deaths from heart disease in people who are not smokers. Here we go with those FIGURES again!
SHOW ME THE DEATH CERTIFICATES PLEASE!
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:12:31 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
I wouldn't mind sharing the air with smokers in a restaurant if they wouldn't exhale.
To: SheLion
Sounds Like another State going to Socialism, and how many more thereafter and then what are they going to take away from us our Guns, Cars, and etc-etc-etc.
To: SheLion
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has classified secondhand smoke as a Group A carcinogen, which means there's sufficient evidence that it causes cancer in humans, according to the American Cancer Society (news - web sites). The EPA has given the Group A designation to only 15 other pollutants, including asbestos, radon and benzene.
Each year, secondhand smoke in the United States is responsible for an estimated 35,000 to 40,000 deaths from heart disease in people who are not smokers. It's also to blame for about 3,000 lung cancer deaths in nonsmoking adults, and 150,000 to 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in children younger than 18 months of age, the American Cancer Society says.
The 1986 Surgeon General's Report on The Health Consequences of Involuntary Smoking declared that secondhand smoke causes disease, including lung cancer, in healthy nonsmokers.
And when compared with the children of nonsmoking parents, children of parents who smoke have more frequent respiratory infections, more respiratory problems, and slower development of lung function as the lung matures.
The U.S. Surgeon General's report also found that separating smokers and nonsmokers within the same air space may reduce, but does not eliminate, the exposure to nonsmokers of secondhand smoke.Where to begin?
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has classified secondhand smoke as a Group A carcinogen
And the federal judiciary system has already called them on this little "fact".
Each year, secondhand smoke in the United States is responsible for an estimated 35,000 to 40,000 deaths from heart disease in people who are not smokers. It's also to blame for about 3,000 lung cancer deaths in nonsmoking adults, and 150,000 to 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in children younger than 18 months of age, the American Cancer Society says.
Here we go with the figures but no supporting evidence, much less proof!
The 1986 Surgeon General's Report on The Health Consequences of Involuntary Smoking declared that secondhand smoke causes disease, including lung cancer, in healthy nonsmokers.
Again, where is the proof? And what about the lung cancer for people that are NOT smokers or exposed to ETS. Where does THAT come from? Enquiring minds want to know.
The U.S. Surgeon General's report also found that separating smokers and nonsmokers within the same air space may reduce, but does not eliminate, the exposure to nonsmokers of secondhand smoke.
DUHH... Exposure does NOT mean harm.
To: SheLion
This will be a boon for restaurants and bars just across the state lines in PA and MD. People will let their money do the talking.
I remember standing outside Atlanta's airport one day between flights having a smoke and sharing an ashtray with another pax - who'd tried to light up in one of the airport's many BARS. Informed that the bars were non-smoking, the guy came outside - sans drink - to light up. He said he told the barkeep,
"If I can't smoke, WHY WOULD I WANT TO DRINK??"
Michael
To: SheLion
"If I can't enjoy a cup of coffee with a cigarette, I won't go out to eat," says Mary T. Gaworski. What she really means is:
If I can't won't enjoy a cup of coffee with a cigarette, I won't can't go out to eat,"
That's the typical way selfish, inconsiderate smokers show their strong support for unwitting property owners and their "rights".
Hypocrites.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:28:13 AM PDT
by
lewislynn
To: SheLion
Screw the idiots in Delaware. I don't smoke, but I defend the right of anybody to participate in a legal activity.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:29:07 AM PDT
by
wattsmag2
To: SheLion
Give me a few minutes. I'll be back to deal with this. SHEESH
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:29:18 AM PDT
by
Gabz
To: Eric in the Ozarks
I wouldn't mind sharing the air with smokers in a restaurant if they wouldn't exhale. So, the world, according to you, should be "according to Eric in the Ozarks!"
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:30:48 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: Eric in the Ozarks
I wouldn't mind sharing the air with smokers in a restaurant if they wouldn't exhale.Would you accept completely seperate smoking and nonsmoking restaurants? You don't have to smoke at the time to go in the smoking allowed but you do have to NOT smoke at the time to go into the nonsmoking.
If not, we probably wouldn't mind NOT sharing a restaurant with you at all.
To: wattsmag2
Screw the idiots in Delaware. I don't smoke, but I defend the right of anybody to participate in a legal activity. Right on, wattsmag2! There you go! I like the way you think!
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:32:31 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: SheLion
Smokers who insist on smoking around people who don't want them to do so are evil -- but the gov't has no business telling private restaurants whether or not they can allow smoking.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:38:05 AM PDT
by
Sloth
To: SheLion
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has classified secondhand smoke as a Group A carcinogen, which means there's sufficient evidence that it causes cancer in humans, according to the American Cancer Society (news - web sites). The EPA has given the Group A designation to only 15 other pollutants, including asbestos, radon and benzene. And a federal court overturned it in 1998, because the EPA violated their own rules and regulations as well as violating the Radon ACT.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:38:24 AM PDT
by
Gabz
To: lewislynn
That's the typical way selfish, inconsiderate smokers show their strong support for unwitting property owners and their "rights".Not necessarily so. If you have something that you enjoy doing, say reading the paper, while you drink your cup of coffee. If a certain establishment says that you can't read your paper while drinking your cup of coffee because it will give everyone else the dreaded paper envy disease, would you want to spend money in that establishment?
And speaking of unwitting property owners and their "rights", are you sure that you believe that property owners HAVE any rights?
To: SheLion
I just want people to quit trying to save anyone from their own actions.
To: Sloth
Smokers who insist on smoking around people who don't want them to do so are evilI wouldn't say "evil" but maybe inconsiderate.
To: SheLion
What right does the state have to ban smoking in casinos located on Indian Reservations, which are in effect soverign nations?
If I was the tribe leader I would tell Del. to go suck it.
And one thing I do not understand, since Reservations are NOT subject to US law, why do they need permission to open casinos on their land?
To: Just another Joe
The 1986 Surgeon General's Report on The Health Consequences of Involuntary Smoking declared that secondhand smoke causes disease, including lung cancer, in healthy nonsmokers. And the World Health Organization, doing the largest study ever, 10 years later - says the total opposite.
People do not acknowledge the fact that these are epidemiologic studies - they show possible correlation - they do not show cause. additionally they must be statistically significant risk ratios for those correlations.
They DON'T exist.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:41:59 AM PDT
by
Gabz
To: lewislynn
That's the typical way selfish, inconsiderate smokers show their strong support for unwitting property owners and their "rights". I don't know where you are from, but in this particular case - you're wrong.
Restaurant owners were not unwitting in this situation - they just didn't think it would happen and sat around and did nothing.
And it goes beyond restaurants and bars.
I do consultant work from my home - no one ever comes here, but I do have a home business. If I renew my business license next January - I will be unable to smoke in my home.
This is definitely a private property rights issue.
A friend of mine who owns a shop downtown has seperate offices upstairs - where the public is not invited. Under the letter of this law, and according to one of the local papers, the intent of this law - he will no longer be able to smoke in his own office upstairs from his store - and he owns the building.
anyone who doesn't think this is a private property issue - has no concept of how far reaching this ban is.
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posted on
05/29/2002 7:49:05 AM PDT
by
Gabz
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