The Cookie Crumbles-The Girl Scouts go PC.

National Review ^ | October 23,2000 | By Kathryn Jean Lopez, NR associate editor---------------lopezk@ix.netcom.com

[yendu bwam]

Camp Fire USA's programs are designed and implemented to reduce sex-role, racial and cultural stereotypes and to foster positive intercultural relationships.

Right. They don't want your sons to grow into real men or your daughters to grow up into womanly women. I wouldn't send my kids there!!!

[arm958]

This is why I stopped supporting GSA a number of years ago.

Yep, this is old news. After several years in the Girls Scouts/Brownies, my daughters discovered freedom. My wife had been a hard working Troop Leader and volunteer. She discovered over time that the great majority of the cookie money goes to salaried PC employees - very little to the girls. I am sure there are tens of thousands of families who have discovered the same thing.

[GrandMoM]

And it could just be that Mr. Myers will help his young charges to think about some (important) things they might not have otherwise!

....Like this good Christian idea! Guys, American women have mostly been indoctrinated and corrupted. It is a personal call, but are American women worth taking a chance on when it comes time to look for a permanent partner in this world?

Please don't get me wrong Mr. Meyers, but perhaps you have been exposed to the ominous part of the world for too long, there is another side. We have a great many young women in our church who display the attiributes you seem to see lacking in the women you encounter. I think it is harmful to generalize in any situation, more so if we do not look at both sides.

[yendu bwam]

You know, you both speak truth. Today, Ms. GrandMom, in local MIDDLE schools, girls are rushing head over heals to give boys oral sex. We have had two girls get pregnant in 7th grade. In 9th grade (and this is tony suburban New Jersey), we have a group of 9th grade girls who are actively searching out seniors to devirginize their friends, so that they have bragging rights. Further, many young women are involved in lesbianism, they openly ridicule many of the attributes that women used to look for in men (loyalty, toughness, chivalry, etc.), and they disdain staying at home to help raise families. Many have had multiple abortions before getting out of high school, and many of those didn't even bother to inform the men who impregnated them (i.e. the fathers). On the other hand, yes, there are some places (maybe at your church), where the tide runs the other way. But overall, the young women I see growing up, ON AVERAGE, have shed the traditional values of the past. For a traditional Christian man, it becomes, in some parts of the country, very, very difficult to find a mate. My son has already spoken to me about this, and I commiserate with him. But in actuality, I think (and correct me if I'm wrong, either of you), both of you want the same thing - young men and women with traditional and Christian moral values. If Mr. Myers suggests to young men that they might be better off with young women espousing those values, wouldn't he be going them a service?

[GrandMoM]

...., I think our only salvation is to return with our children in tow, to the religions we have deserted.

While it is not without flaws, it is the only entity that is wholesome today.

[MHT]

Yes! The way to get rid of the burden which the council poses upon the troop is to do a troop fundraiser. Our troop sells buckets of cookies and keeps between $4-5 on a $10 bucket versus the $.40 they would get on a $3 box of cookies. And the per/cookie price that the customer pays on the bucket makes them cheaper and fresher (and better-tasting) than most of the regular GSA brands.

[goldstategop]

The Girl Scouts are about as relevant to the formation of future leadership as the WNBA. I don't lose sleep over them.

[yendu bwam]

...., I think our only salvation is to return with our children in tow, to the religions we have deserted.

Amen to that!

[MHT]

Guess you could add GSA to the master list with the WNBA, the US Women's Socceer Team, and the ever-shrinking list of all-women's colleges (which, tragically, have become icons of liberalism and lesbian recruitment centers).

[TruthNtegrity]

Bumping and bookmarking to read later.

[RonF]

The BSA accepts non-Judeo/Christians. Do the American Heritage Girls?

[nonsporting]

I just tossed my cookies.

[Bella_Bru]

I never mentioned how many boxes I bought to start with. ;-)

Needless to say, StineCold and I spent a week with stomachaches from too many cookies.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Have the Girl Scouts become the female equivalent of NAMBLA?I think of the Boy Scouts as Adam and the Girl Scouts as Eve.Just tell Eve you don't like apples!

[hsmomx3]

I wonder what would happen if I printed this article and handed it to some of the mothers standing there with their daughters as they sell cookies? I'll bet some of them have no clue as to this propaganda.

[codebreaker]

Thin Mints are my favorites too..

[codebreaker]

I've always wondered why I like Asian women so, and I think you put your finger on it.

[Don Myers]

Ok, I am back from work. My shift was 1 pm to 9 pm today. It is amazing to watch these youngsters at work. They look like normal people. Yet, they have strange ideas.

One boy told me that he doesn't expect his significant other to be faithful. He only asks that she not give him an STD.

I see 14, 15, 16 year old girls with them who have no concept of morality. The girls who go from boy to boy are called farm rats. We have one boy who is "really in love" with this girl. He is 16, I think. I think she is his first "intimate" girlfriend. We will see how long this mother of all romances lasts.

No, I don't think they are happy either. What do they have to look forward to? A series of brief flings until old age catches up to them? Love? They don't even trust each other. They live together nowadays. They don't trust each other enough to make a real commitment like marriage.

[Don Myers]

"These young adults are not stupid and most can read people like a book."

These "young adults" are boys 14 to 18, with the standard teenage viewpoints. They form their own opinions, and look at the older folks as outdated and antiquated. They think that the older folks have nothing to do with their generation.

"....and isn't it quite possible you may be adding to the damage all ready done."

I don't think so. They think I am very old-fashioned and hopeless.

"I do, I teach Sunday school and a great deal of my lessons are on daily life, and future expectations !"

You spend maybe an hour a week with kids in Sunday School. No,ma am, it just isn't the same thing at all.

"Could you just explain what these attitudes are and do all or most males share your views?"

The attitudes involve a new morality or lack of it. Many of these kids don't know what sex they prefer. Many of them just go both ways and call it even.

They think that having sex with a good acquaintance is the accepted thing, which it is to them, and their parents. Kids start having sex almost from puberty, and many girls are single moms while they are in grade/high school.

The boys talk about single moms who expect to have another child before they graduate from high school. I see young girls walking out from one of the local schools who are carrying two kids. They have a nursery at the school.

Girls are being taught that boys are not really the ideal mate. Lesbianism and homosexuality is taught and practiced in our grade and high schools and colleges.

The youngsters of today don't expect to get married, if at all, until much later in life. They practice the hedonistic life style, and let the devil take the hind most.

Do you want more elucidation?