Posted on 05/31/2002 5:15:12 PM PDT by vannrox
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| from the May 29, 2002 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0529/p01s03-wome.html
A few tips on how the experts spot a terroristIsraeli security specialists say US system looks for the weapons while Israeli system looks for the terrorist.By Ben Lynfield | Special to The Christian Science Monitor
JERUSALEM - For years, a T-shirt has been on sale in downtown Jerusalem that reads: "Don't worry America, Israel is behind you."
It is a slogan whose time has come – at least for the Israeli government, which is translating American post-Sept. 11 security concerns into closer ties with the US, and for Israeli businessmen, who see an opportunity to market their army and secret-service experience.
Israel's Shin Bet security service last week instructed a delegation from the New York Police Department on how to deal with suicide bombings. On Monday, eight senior law enforcement officials from Georgia arrived for a week of lectures, seminars, and scrutiny of an Israeli paramilitary border police unit. The bomb unit of the Los Angeles Police Department was here earlier this month. And Israeli police superintendent Shlomo Aharonishky met two weeks ago in Washington with Chief of Police Charles Ramsey and FBI agents to discuss how to handle suicide bombers.
"There is no question the ties have gotten closer," says Gil Kleiman, an Israeli police spokes-man. "No other law enforcement agency has the experience we have in dealing with terrorism within the constraints of a Western system of law and court systems."
By year's end, Israel will host a convention of police commissioners from across the US, Mr. Kleiman says.
While Israel's security forces are widely reputed to be among the best in the world, not everyone in Israel agrees that the country offers a model of how to reconcile security measures with democracy.
"Palestinian civilians need to prepare for their graves when they approach Israeli checkpoints," says Hashem Mahameed, a member of the Knesset for the left-wing Hadash Party. "I don't think the practices in the West Bank and Gaza are something Americans could take pride in."
But Israeli security specialists say that the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which began in 1967, as well as securing Israeli facilities in the Middle East, Europe, and Africa, have accorded decades of experience which can benefit the US.
For example, they say, Israel has been grappling with how to stop suicide bombers since 1987, when the Iranian-inspired Hizbullah group began bombing Israeli targets in Lebanon.
"We met with people from the World Trade Center who told us that they thought of everything except for an airplane crash," says Shlomo Dror, a security specialist who works with American clients. "I told them that we began thinking in 1983 about the possibility a plane could be hijacked and crashed into the Shalom Tower [in Tel Aviv]."
Mr. Dror was spokesman for the Israeli defense ministry and before that the spokesman for an Israeli government agency responsible for Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. He joined the Shin Bet 23 years ago, after his army service, and has been in charge of security for embassies and El Al airline on three continents.
He was watching television in his office in the Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv on Sept. 11. "When I saw the second plane crashing I knew it was a terrorist attack. It made me realize that the United States is really in need of advice from Israeli professional people."
"Israel has been some kind of laboratory to check how the suicide bombers work, and all the conclusions from our experience can be brought to bear in the United States," he says.
Together with American partners with experience in the marines or CIA, Dror and two Israeli colleagues in January formed New World Security, a New York-based company to offer advice ranging from securing buildings to training travelers on how to protect themselves from kidnapping or abuse.
No figures are available for how many Israelis have gone into security consulting for American clients since Sept. 11, but Zeev Schiff, defense correspondent for the daily newspaper Haaretz, says they are carving out niches in computer security and airport security. "These people have a lot of experience and know the tricks of the other side," he says.
Dror says his company's clients include Wall Street firms and a municipality, but declines to be more specific.
Israeli specialists have a low regard for American security searches. They say they tend to cause unnecessary discomfort for travelers, while being prone to missing potential assailants. "The United States does not have a security system, it has a system for bothering people," Dror says.
"The difference between the Israeli and American systems is that we are looking for the terrorist, while the Americans look for the weapons," he adds.
At the heart of the Israeli system is the questioning of the passenger, which Dror says is done not only to get answers, but also to gauge the passenger's behavior. "The reason we open the suitcase is to have another few minutes with the passenger, to ask some more questions," he says. The questioning also serves as a way to quickly decide who to send to the plane without probing more thoroughly, he adds. Dror advocates Israeli-style security clearances for all workers at the companies for whom he consults. They entail checking a person's history by interviewing acquaintances and family "We check the man himself, not documents."
But Dror adds that Israeli methods, even if fully adopted, will not stop all attacks. "There is no 100 percent in security. If you want 100 percent security on flights, every passenger has to take all his clothes off, have his suitcase checked, and be handcuffed and tied to his seat. For sure this can never be. The idea is to enable people to continue their lives while making an attack less possible."
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"You notice how when you read replies sent to you that after you open them they change color so you know you have already seen them. For over a year now many of the replies sent to me, have already been read"
Your browser is what changes the color of the links. The color the link is changed to can be forced by the browser, or left up to the author of the document using specific HTML tags for that purpose.
I've not experienced what you describe. Does anyone else use your computer or have you reinstalled or upgraded anything that might have reset some custom selections you made earlier?
Let's not take any chances -- Corky Romano is my man in charge of Homeland Security.
U.S. Customs has been using this technique for decades. It was a big part of my training when I worked Military Customs in Rota, Spain. What a comedy of errors that one end of the terminal is profiling people (for contraband) getting off the plane, while the other side is letting those who should be profiled (for attempting murder) get on the plane.
I think that these days we Americans would rather die than to appear unfair. Unfair, yes that's the word. We have an exaggerated sense of fairness and believe that perfect fairness and perfect justice are achieveable in this world. Better 100 murderers go free than one wrongly accused man be imprisoned, we say?! (Well, talk to one Gerald Amirault about that piece of national wisdom.)
This is no different than norming educational test scores to achieve the same outcome for everyone regardless of cultural background. No different than affirmative action, no different than literary or movie awards to half-wits, no different than standing ovations for a no talent like Whoopie Goldberg wherever she goes. Why, she's suffered enough, first as a slave, then in the death camps of the Holocaust and finally in the back of a bus! The airport security measures in this country can't help but reflect the past 30 years of our absurd history.
Dissidents beware, as America becomes prewar Germany......
Watch the numbers as in:
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the individual posting numbers will change color also. Blue for an unred post, and purple for one that's been read.
This part: "Dissidents beware, as America becomes prewar Germany......", I'm in full agreement with you. Take care.
I'm only guessing here, but was that pamphlet published by the government printing office before or after the '92 election - my guess is after.... Appendix (R)eno.
And Peace be with You.
It may not be done "officially," but profiling is done. I have a police officer in the family and he profiles on his job every single day as do the rest of his fellow police officers. He can look into a crowd and identify right away the troublemakers and the other people to keep an eye on.
BTW, I see nothing wrong with it.
There's a UN stamp and a five pointed start with the letters FALN across it.
It was supposed to be a joint effort between the shireffs department and the FBI to help "American's " indentify "terrorists".
Investigator Al Shearer
Maricopa County Attorney's Office
605-650-3131
This and the FBI's number is listed as numbers to call.
At work we have police officers as gaurds, I showed the pamphlet to one officer that I talk to a lot and he said he had seen it also.
Some things listed as potential terrorists are:
"Right Wing Extremists"
Which are listed as "defenders" of the US Contitution against federal government and the UN. (Super Patriots)
Groups of individuals engaged in para-military training.
"Common Law Movement Proponents"
Make numerous references to US Constitution.
Attempt to police the police.
"Single Issue Terrorists"
Animal Rights
Eco-terrorism
Insurgents- rebels
Color me a terrorist I guess. I refer to the Constituion and will defend it, especially against the UN.
Would practicing with my 308 on a fivehundred yard range be considered "para-military" training?
And didn't the honorable bill clinton label Christians as "extreme"
That must be why the government is concerned enough about Churches to have the FBI spy on them.
But then since the 50's many of our Churches have been turned into government agencies just like our schools, through "incorporation". Which effectively silences them .
Some things we view as innocent can be very dangerous.
Incorporation goes back to before 600 BC in Greece.
Ceasar perfected it in Rome.
You could worship a rock if you wanted as long as Ceasar got his cut (sounds a lot like America today)
The Christians were persecuted in Rome, not because they worshipped Jesus Christ, but because they refused to take a license to do it.
Basically, incorporating a Church says that the Church gets its tax exempt status from the government (which it can lose). When the whole time the Church is "Tax Free" and accepts that status from no one.
The problem with this is that the government can take away the Churches "tax exempt" status. This means if the Church speaks out against homosexuality or against any politician they could lose their status, which effectively silences our institution to the Truth.
This is a side note to what is going on and what I believe is at the heart of all this, as our government tries to separate us from our God.
Peace
As for the Constitution thing, I'm in real trouble - I actually took an oath to defend it against all threats, foreign and domestic. Hell, I took that oath twice - I'm in double Jeapordy. The FBI should be showing up at the door about five minutes after I post this!
It was posted here once upon a time.
And a Monday AM BUMP
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