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They came for the smokers, now they are coming for you!
1 posted on 06/01/2002 11:30:55 AM PDT by SheLion
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“I think coffee’s a pretty strong drug. People need their caffeine.”

Now COFFEE is a DRUG!!!!

2 posted on 06/01/2002 11:32:15 AM PDT by SheLion
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Earlier post Doctor in Seattle wants to Tax Your Espresso so that Daycare Workers can be Paid Better
3 posted on 06/01/2002 11:34:02 AM PDT by Free the USA
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Private consumers can't be trusted to spend their money in socially responsible ways. Only the Experts know how best to spend our money for us. By all means, increase taxes everywhere, on everything, wherever & whenever possible. Every dime left in private hands is a dime wasted. Ask the Norwegians and the Swedes, who never saw a tax they didn't love. They should be our model.
7 posted on 06/01/2002 11:41:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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F!@#$%^ Liberals!!!!!!!

My wife and I run an Independant Espresso,Drive Thru/Cafe. We are going to do everything in our power to stop this!
9 posted on 06/01/2002 11:46:27 AM PDT by cmsgop
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Now here's the weird part. I can understand some politician coming up with yet another source of revenue.....but it's incredulous that the idiots in Seattle would vote in yet another tax. Liberalism seems to be rampant in America's cities. Must be a lot of voters on the dole....or getting a government check.
10 posted on 06/01/2002 11:48:40 AM PDT by hove
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There's one thing that pisses me off about all this that nobody EVER talks about: The small business that has to collect the taxes.

I run a small business, and anyone out there who does will know what a task and cost it is to collect these taxes, keep all of your "papers" in order and deal with the government. If everything is not squared away you incur penalties.

Florida is real cute. I was a few days late this quarter so the other day I get a PHONE CALL from the tax collector. Gee what neat new tactic, just like the the good old days when the Monarch sent the tax collector out, except now we have phones.

At first I thought it was one of my associates playing a joke, because they're in the process of dragging his dick around in the dirt for the same thing. Nope, it was a real-life schmuck tax collector calling my house.

Question: Why in the hell should I have to be their damn tax collector? I have to do their dirty work and not get compensated? I thank the lord that my wife is a CPA or I honestly don't know what I would do. I don't know how guys that don't have an accountant in the family ever get started for cryin' out loud.

With small business owners, there's just not enough of us to get together to change anything so we just have to sit back and take it. I can't even believe I'm still surviving after all of the s**t I've had to go through just dealing with the government.

Don't wanna sound like I'm whining, but the government has honestly been my biggest obstcacle to my business thriving and bringing my customers a good value.

11 posted on 06/01/2002 12:01:11 PM PDT by AAABEST
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Under the plan, drip coffee would not be taxed.

Moy forgot to add "yet" to the end of her sentence. Citizens, or I should say, Comrades aren't allowed to have disposable income in THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF SEATTLE.

What business does the city have paying for wages at privately run day care centers with taxpayer's money?

If this passes - and it probably will - I hope there is still someone left in Seattle, not towing the party line ( I know there are a few FReepers that qualify), that will challenge it in Federal Court.

12 posted on 06/01/2002 12:05:36 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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A tax on the 'fat' content of your meal is coming. You can figure the arguments/justification. We used to laugh at smoking restrictions, urinetests for employment, bbqbans(coals/gas). It's hard to laugh anymore.
13 posted on 06/01/2002 12:06:46 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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Oh goody. They can have an upcoming episode of "Frasier" where Frasier and Niles complain about getting taxed everytime they buy a latte at their favorite coffee shop.

Enter Special guest star Rob Reiner, as the head of iamyourchild.org, who lectures Frasier and Niles about how selfish they are for complaining, until they break down and apologize.

14 posted on 06/01/2002 12:15:56 PM PDT by vikingchick
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OTH, if you can afford or don't mind paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee, what's a dime or so the argument will go.
15 posted on 06/01/2002 12:20:03 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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Sweet justice to see Starbucks squeal over liberal policies.
18 posted on 06/01/2002 12:29:21 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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They came for the smokers, now they are coming for you!

I wish I was suprised.

20 posted on 06/01/2002 12:34:26 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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“Coffee, in a way, it’s kind of a luxury item,”

The hell it is.  In that overcast, dreary, cold,
wet climate, coffee is the only legal way of
surviving.  I am so happy to have gotten out
of that miserable climate.  Hail sunshine!

21 posted on 06/01/2002 12:40:11 PM PDT by gcruse
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Well who is at fault here? The people...the people of Seattle. It is not the fault of anyone else..the voters have complete control over what is taxed. If people would revolt then there would not be a tax. It is plain and simple...the power is with the people. People refuse to stand up and say NO...
23 posted on 06/01/2002 1:36:28 PM PDT by Lucas1
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“Coffee, in a way, it’s kind of a luxury item,” said Patty Grazini

Not in my house it isn't! Luxury item? More like a downright necessity.

Anyone who knows me would tell you that I'm downright nasty without my first few cups of coffee in the morning.

I guarantee if this Patty Grazini broad ever met me sans coffee, she'd change her tune in a big hurry! She'd be standing on street corners giving away coffee.

Stupid liberals. Is there anything they haven't taxed yet?

28 posted on 06/01/2002 2:12:52 PM PDT by usconservative
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Hey after all only rich folks drink this fancy high dollar coffee.
31 posted on 06/01/2002 3:16:44 PM PDT by GailA
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Memo to Starbucks headquarters:

There are other states to choose from. :-)

37 posted on 06/01/2002 4:51:25 PM PDT by lowbridge
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All for it. What they deserve for inflicting Starbux on an unsuspecting nation.
38 posted on 06/01/2002 4:56:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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"BUT IN Seattle, where voters have already voted to tax tobacco, meals and hotel rooms, among other things, initial word of the proposal caused barely a jolt among the area’s latte lovers."

It has been said that people get the kind of government they deserve. The majority of Seattle's residents must be under the impression that if you can afford to stay in a hotel, eat out at a resturant, smoke tobacco, or drink flavored coffee, then you're liable to support the daycare and early-learning of the region's single and poor parents.

By the time it gets this far, it's too late. Attitudes have to be changed, and in the largest population center of Gary Locke's fiefdom, that isn't very likely. It's redistribution of wealth, by any other name. Isn't socialism wonderful?

39 posted on 06/01/2002 5:25:04 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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When they start taxing donuts they'll run into a real buzzsaw, 'cause they'll have to fight the police unions tooth and nail.
43 posted on 06/02/2002 2:42:36 AM PDT by metesky
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