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To: acehai
unspecified - "not stated explicitly".

explicit - "specific"

"At least I had a plausable excuse for my "brainf--t... An arab businessman named Ferat was a passenger on Flight 800 when it was shot down."

Interesting. A few of the tinfoil hats including you have been desperately trying unsuccessfully to discredit your one time Star witnesses, Faret & Wendell, for the last 5 years but you still can't remember how to spell F-a-r-e-t because of your fixation on a Flight 800 passenger you say is named Ferat.

Isn't the passenger's name Ferrat? Source.

Now that we are in agreement that the weather balloon was reportedly launched at ABOUT 2000, how do you expect to determine the specific time and direction of the the winds aloft from 8500 feet down to whatever altitude the surface wind reports go up to?

How do you explain the following altitude estimates of the Massive Fireball explosion, keeping in mind that the tinfoil hats' purpose for alleging the second cloud and trail notion is to try to discredit Faret & Wendell and get the altitude of the Massive Fireball explosion up from 5500-7500 feet to 13,800 feet - which would, of course, have required Faret & Wendell to start climbing immediately upon seeing it to reach that higher altitude, rather than gradually descend as indicated in their report?

NTSB AIRBORNE EYEWITNESS CHART

And WHEN can the readers expect you to fulfill your promise to explain the following as you have been repeatedly requested to do? Today? Tomorrow? Next summer at 4 o'clock?

Can you explain how witness Fred Meyer could have seen a "shootdown" of Flight 800 at 13,800 feet at 8:31:12 only 3-4 seconds before he saw the Massive Fireball explode at 5500-7500 feet at about 8:31:47 which he says he and his crewmates agreed at the time took approximately 10 seconds to fall to the surface?

If he's so unflappable and KNOWS that he saw a "missile shootdown" of Flight 800, how do you explain his following statement while being interviewed by an NTSB Witness Group?

"I saw a streak of light in the sky. I have no idea what it was. And my reaction when I saw it was, what the hell is that?"

68 posted on 06/10/2002 2:58:08 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
"MISSILE WITNESS MYTH" MYTH

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"Now that we are in agreement that the weather balloon was reportedly launched at ABOUT 2000, how do you expect to determine the specific time and direction of the winds aloft from 8500 feet down to whatever altitude the surface wind reports go up to? "

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The NTSB Table 3 on page 57 is a very accurate representation of the winds aloft from 14000 ft down to 1000 ft. (These are actual physical measurements, we don't need to determine, estimate, or guess anything else. What is in this table is what the winds aloft were before, during and after the TWA800 event).

Elmer ... It is eminently apparant that you are sadly ignorant when it comes to meteorology. Radiosondes are launched twice daily at 00Z and 12Z. The data they collect is used as a valid representation of the wind speed, wind direction, temperature, dew point and pressure.

The wind speed and direction measurements taken by the radiosonde at various altitudes for 00Z July 18, 1996 are valid to be used as an accurate representation of the upper atmosphere in that location from that time period until the next radiosonde launch.

Since the TWA800 incident occurred so close to the time of the balloon sounding, the data is an actual representation of the wind speeds and directions at all levels of the atmosphere.

But we can go one step farther:

We know exactly when readings were taken each minute from the radiosonde and the exact location of the radiosonde for each minute as well.

The NTSB Docket CD 8/10/2000 - Exhibit 2L Radiosonde Wind Information, contains the minute by minute readings from the Brookhaven (Upton, NY) 00Z July 18, 1996 radiosonde.

The actual launch time of the Upton NY (OKX) radiosonde balloon was at 7:17 PM EDT July 17,1996.

Since the NTSB has not put the complete docket on-line, I give you

JACK REED'S SITE

Since Jack is a Certified Consulting Meteorologist, certified by the American Meteorological Society, I do not hesitate to submit him to the readers as an "EXPERT" on interpriting and disseminating weather data.

Jack includes the minute by minute radiosonde data and he plots the location of the balloon through its flight. He also labels the location of the TWA800 incident.

To make a long story short... This measured upper air data IS what the wind directions and wind speeds were just before, during and after the TWA800 event took place.

And this data proves that any cloud seen by Faret and Wendell should have been moving SE. NOT the NNW they reported.

Now you can return to picking fly-$quat out of black pepper, Elmer...I'm sure you find it tasty...Have a great day ;^)

70 posted on 06/11/2002 1:22:45 AM PDT by acehai
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