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To: VaBthang4
The war on Islamists is correct....and if it is personal.....personal for who?

The War on Islamists is like saying The War on Nazis or The War on Communists ... it is correct, but it sounds dumb because it trivializes the war by personalizing it. Islamists are people, the ones carrying on Jihad.

Jihad has one meaning: military and violent conquest of the infidels.

41 posted on 06/06/2002 3:48:14 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Jihad has one meaning: military and violent conquest of the infidels.

That's incorrect; for many Muslims, at least, it means a spiritual struggle. Well, supposedly, anyhow.

44 posted on 06/06/2002 3:50:23 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
ji·had also je·had    (jalt-hädaltn.
  1. A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.
  2. A crusade or struggle: “The war against smoking is turning into a jihad against people who smoke” (Fortune).
[Arabic jihaltd, from jahada, to strive. See ghd in Semitic Roots.]

\Ji*had"\, Jehad \Je*had"\, n. [Ar. jih[=a]d.] (Moham.) A religious war against infidels or Mohammedan heretics; also, any bitter war or crusade for a principle or belief.

[Their] courage in war . . . had not, like that of the Mohammedan dervishes of the Sudan, or of Mohammedans anywhere engaged in a jehad, a religious motive and the promise of future bliss behind it. --James Bryce.

jihad  n : a holy war by Muslims against unbelievers [syn: jehad]

 

50 posted on 06/06/2002 3:55:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
But that is what it is, we are at war with a group of people. They have no country, no borders, no currency, no government, most are Muslim, some are Arabs. That is what makes this war so unique and why we still seem befuddled by it. Declaring war in the traditional sense is difficult if not impossible.

This is a great step, someone in major media starting to define the enemy. Clearly once we do this we can then determine how to defeat them. We better hope like crazy they don’t get nukes, because if they do, this war changes in a hurry.

62 posted on 06/06/2002 4:04:20 PM PDT by schu
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To: Urbane_Guerilla
Jihad has one meaning: military and violent conquest of the infidels.

No, that's not right. Of course, you get different meanings for "jihad" depending on who you ask...but that makes the point.

Most informed individuals understand "jihad" to mean "struggle".

I agree with the other poster and Dobbs. "Islamists" are exactly what we are up against. "Jihad" is ambiguous.

While "Islamist" may not be adequately pc, it's spot on.

142 posted on 06/09/2002 1:54:04 PM PDT by Principled
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