Hijackers' money trail traced to Oklahoma

www.newsok.com/ ^ | 2002-06-06 | By The Associated Press

[goldstategop]

Joe Farah has drawn attention to Oklahoma City and possible links to Muslim extremists. All of which has it appears been swept under the rug by our government. All of a sudden they are surfacing. Its getting interesting. Who knows what connections there may have been between Timothy McVeigh and the future 911 hijackers. You never know but it could be April 19, 1995 was a dress rehearsal for September 11, 2001. And then there are two unexploded bombs discovered there which no one has accounted for... The plot thickens.

[remaininlight]

There has been a fair sized Arab presence in Okalahoma for years. It all started from some of the Okalahoma universities that have good curriculums in all aspects of the oil biz. From geology and drilling to refinery science. Arabs came to learn this. These courses were there for Okalahomans to learn how to exploit their native state's oil/gas reserves.

[rubbertramp]

It is interesting that the factoid that Atta received payment from Mohmed Ahmed, a Pakistani intelligence officer, member of the ISI (a CIA spinoff) has completely disappeared from the internet and the media at large. This Ahmed was in Washington at the time of the 9/11 massacre meeting with such notables as Richard Armitage. He was later sacked on a trumped up charge because the reality is too embarassing.

The above factoid was released by the India newspapers who are not at all friendly to Pakistan.

[honway]

http://college4.nytimes.com/guests/articles/2001/11/10/883493.xml

Moussaoui's Oklahoma roommate connected to OKC bombing and WTC 1993 in court testimony

[goldstategop]

Curious. The FBI couldn't be bothered with any of this stuff. They decided the real target was right wing Christians, hate radio, and the so called militias. Thanks to the Clinton inspired diversion we avoided dealing with the real threat and soon we had 911. Ain't it lovely?

[Elkiejg]

Officials said the Yemen citizen was refused a U.S. visa four times in 2000 because of suspicions he wouldn't leave America if he was let in.

HELLO WASHINGTON - is anybody listening? Can you say CLOSE THE BORDERS - ISSUE NO MORE VISAS?? G*D, government is STUPID!!

[honway]

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/659272/posts

More information in this thread on Moussaoui's roommate, Mr. Menepta, the U.S. born African-American turned radical Islamist.

[goldstategop]

I wonder if 911 would have happened if they hadn't framed it as a case of White Boy domestic terrorism. Well the feds executed McVeigh in haste and while no one thinks he's innocent, the fact of the matter is any secets he had that may have shed light on a possible radical Islamist terrorist connection died with him. Its just too bad Justice and the FBI had a closed mindset right up til 911. The bottom line is there's more to the OKC bombing than meets the eye.

[rubbertramp]

The government is not stupid. We pay for billions in intelligence. What is the alternative to your remark?...the government is complicit...scary, huh?

Richard Armitage is supposed to work for us.

[goldstategop]

The government was completely in the dark. You wonder whether we're still get all our money's worth.

[Elkiejg]

Faxed letter to Schumer:

Senator Schumer:
You are quoted in the AP:

``This gets stranger and stranger,'' said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., one of the senators investigating the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. ``Why we were able to keep Atta's roommate out but not Atta and the rest of the terrorists is beyond me.''

A State Department official said Wednesday there is still no mechanism, even in the aftermath of Sept. 11, to flag a foreigner who is turned down repeatedly for visas for suspicions like those that surrounded Bin al-Shibh.

``It would be very difficult to draw a distinction between the typical profile of someone desperate to come to the United States for financial and social betterment reasons and is turned down several times for a visa and the terrorist or someone else with ill intent,'' said Edward Dickens, a spokesman for the consular affairs office that approves visas.

Why is Congress so STUPID and out of the "loop" that you can't see the simple solution. CLOSE THE BORDERS, ISSUE NO VISAS until the terrorists hiding in America are found, tried or deported? Do 3000 or MORE citizens have to die before Congress acts?

DO YOUR JOB - PROTECT AMERICA.

[heylady]

This Is Only a Test... To ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport screeners will not be allowed to profile people. They will continue random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, Medal of Honor winning former Governors and Compaq employees wearing black leather jackets.

Let us pause a moment and take the following test.

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were massacred by:

a. Olga Korbut

b. Sitting Bull

c. Arnold Schwarzenneger

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians

b. Elvis

c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger

b. The King of Sweden

c. The Boy Scouts

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy

b. Pee Wee Herman

c. Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day.

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old wheel-chair-bound American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:

a. The Smurfs

b. Davie Jones

c. The Little Mermaid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver was murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd

b. Charles Lindberg

c. Mother Teresa

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo

b. The Tooth Fairy

c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons

b. Grandma Moses

c. Michael Jordan

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers

b. Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems

c. The World Wrestling Federation villain: "Mustapha the Merciless"

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd

b. The Supreme Court of Florida

c. Mr. Bean

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2001 the United States began to fight a war in Afghanistan against:

a. Enron

b. The Lutheran Church

c. The NFL

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Bonny and Clyde

b. Captain Kangaroo

c. The Beastie Boys

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

[gaspar]

To state that Pakistani Military Intelligence Branch (ISI) is a spin-off of the CIA gives you the tinfoil hat for the day.

[aristeides]

I think the fact is that that guy Sheikh involved in the Pearl murder transferred $100,000 to Atta on Gen. Ahmed's instructions, and that Indian intelligence intercepted their communications. When this fact came out, Gen. Ahmed was forced to resign as director general of the ISI. But you're right, it's interesting that the role of the ISI in 9/11 has been mysteriously ignored by the media. I guess the pressies have been made aware that preserving the ostensible alliance between the U.S. and Gen. Musharraf's government is a matter of national security in this war.

By the way, I had read initial reports that Gen. Ahmed was in the Pentagon on 9/11 meeting somebody when the plane hit. I posted here on FR asking for confirmation. Turns out, Gen. Ahmed was on Capitol Hill meeting the heads of the congressional intel committees. I have long wondered why that plane hit the Pentagon, when I would have thought the Capitol would be an easier -- and more vital -- target. But Gen. Ahmed's whereabouts may well have been the reason. And, being where he was, Gen. Ahmed was in a very good position to gauge the reaction of the U.S. government to 9/11.

[twntaipan]

``This gets stranger and stranger,'' said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., one of the senators investigating the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. ``Why we were able to keep Atta's roommate out but not Atta and the rest of the terrorists is beyond me.''

Someone should take a few hours to explain to Chuckie that the culture he helped to create, one in which the only group that can be profiled or vilified without recrimination is WASP, also helped to make it very difficult for INS or FBI or CIA to keep out the scum.

[aristeides]

The leftist seminar callers who call in to C-SPAN each morning make a point of pointing out that McVeigh was a white boy, and that therefore there can be no question of racial profiling of Middle Easterners. They're mainly black, the issue is profiling Middle Easterners, not them, but they seem to be infected with groupthink. I suspect this reflects the sort of "thought" that is purveyed over the black media.

If it turns out that OKC was a Middle Eastern job, I think they'll have nervous breakdowns. Too much cognitive dissonance.

[rubbertramp]

The tinfoil hats have been way ahead of the curve for some time. Tinfoilers know when the name calling starts, the argument is spot on.

Richard Armitage was meeting with the ISI the entire week and the day of 9/11....the same fellow that sent Atta his money...what kind of coincidence is that?