Cretigo: Bingo game on the Crevo threads!

Cretigo web site ^ | Prof Weird

[Gladwin]

From the website: After a few years in the creationism vs evolution debates, I noticed that there was a core of commonly used creationist 'arguments'. So, I compiled them and turned them into a game - Cretigo. It is played like Bingo, except the various creationist claims represent the letters and numbers. There are 28 arguments arranged into a 5 x 5 board (not all arguments are used on a single board), with the center square free.

It's kind of the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 effect - by turning the 'debate' into a game, creationist arguments don't seem as monotonously painful as usual (plus the fact that everyone playing will read every single word - for the very next thing the creationist says could WIN IT ALL!!)

[Gladwin]

Cretigo! Here

[Gladwin]

Logical fallacies: here, and are strongly related to the Cretigo board squares. A sample:

Burden Of Proof Fallacy:
the claim that whatever has not yet been proved false must be true (or vice versa). Essentially the arguer claims that he should win by default if his opponent can't make a strong enough case. There may be two problems here. First, the arguer claims priority - but why is it him who wins by default? And second, he is impatient with ambiguity, and wants a final answer right away. A counter-argument is the phrase "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

Argument By Question:
asking your opponent a question which does not have a snappy answer. (Or anyway, no snappy answer that the audience has the background to understand.) Your opponent has a choice: he can look weak or he can look long-winded. For example, "How can scientists expect us to believe that anything as complex as a single living cell could have arisen as a result of random natural processes?" Actually, pretty well any question has this effect to some extent. It usually takes longer to answer a question than ask it. Variants are the rhetorical question, and the loaded question, such as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

[Junior]

One thread with Little Boy Blue and I can be sure of CRETIGO!

[BMCDA]

Hehehe.. what have I done ;-D

[HiTech RedNeck]

Ping. Wanna create a Evogo?

[Mo1]

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[nothingnew]

...the loaded question, such as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

You forgot "Yes or No?"

BTW...what the heck is this post about?

FMCDH

[Heartlander]

Tell me Junior, you profess to be a RC Christian, did God create anything?

[Gladwin]

It is about Cretigo! The classic Bingo game for the creationist vs. evolutionist debates.

[Junior]

God created it all. He just did it in such a way as to not have to constantly tweak His creation.

[jimtorr]

God created it all. He just did it in such a way as to not have to constantly tweak His creation.

I agree with you there, IMO. Still, it's a huge leap to go from there to saying that he never does.

[Heartlander]

Be careful. I think your friends have their cards ready - and I believe they can mark a spot.

Why don’t we just put the ID card on the table.

Note: for the many who will probably not even read the link, just mark your “Dembski” spot now.

[PatrickHenry]

Great thread. Y'all come!

[jimtorr]

Phooey, I did it again! Hit post rather than preview, I mean.

IMHO, I think God (that is not the Deity's name, you know) does intervene, sometimes in major ways. For myself, I'm not going to say that he did not directly intervene in the creation of people-kind.

[Heartlander]

What’s the matter Patrick? Tired of playing with yourself? I can just picture you all alone yelling, “BINGO” now. LOL

[Sabertooth]

God created it all. He just did it in such a way as to not have to constantly tweak His creation.

Generally agree, especially in regard to cosmology and natural History.

Possible/likely exceptions (no evidence, just my gut):

• Big Bang
• End of the Planck Era
• First life

As to human History, since I believe that man is a pivotal goal of Creation, His intervention with humanity is ongoing, but usually sublime.

Miracles and unequivocal Divine interventions are rare.

[Sabertooth]

I like W

W. Misuse and Misunderstandings of the ToE 'Evolution is RACISM/ATHEISM/RELIGION  !!"

Oddly assumes that since evolution is based on assumptions, and religion is based on assumptions, that evolution is therefore a religion (ie, accepted as true WITHOUT evidence).  Also assumes that one must give up God to accept the validity of evolution (false). Since the ToE is purely a biological theory that explains how life changes over time, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say about morals, ethics, theology, philosophy, or cultural development, which is why claims like "the end product of the PHILOSOPHY of evolutionISM is the erosion of morality !!" belong in this category. I would add Evolution also has nothing to say about strictly theological matters that atheists believe to be "superstition."

W may catch as many Evos as Crevos.

[Heartlander]

Patrick, I realize that I cannot un-ring a bell, but I do apologize for the snide comment that I made earlier. That being said, I do have a serious question…

What is the ‘one’ major item that causes you to doubt the existence of an ‘Intelligent Designer’?

[Physicist]

U. Mobile Goalposts Backpedaling

There's another form of this: the shifting of the dividing line between "microevolution" and "macroevolution". As scientists discover more and more extreme examples of genetic or morphological change within populations, creationists change the definition of "microevolution". In recent years it's gone from covering only changes in the relative frequency of brown vs. white moths, to covering the separation of closely related species. No matter how dramatically evolution progresses in the future, they'll be able to say, "oh, that's just microevolution."