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Ohio State Bush Haters - A first Hand Account
The Dark Side ^ | 6-14-02 | AngryWhiteDemocrat

Posted on 06/14/2002 1:23:08 PM PDT by rface

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Someone should suppress Buzzflash. They are a threat to this country and are the most unamerica place on the web. Besides the DNC.
41 posted on 06/14/2002 11:14:26 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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42 posted on 06/14/2002 11:14:47 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: rface
this thread is on the front page of the demorats drudge wanna be site right now. Smile! Screw you rats!

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43 posted on 06/14/2002 11:16:58 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW

The Islamic style of peace

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44 posted on 06/14/2002 11:27:20 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Mo1
bttt.
45 posted on 06/14/2002 11:54:38 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: rface
GAF is a substring of DILLIGAF. ;-)
47 posted on 06/15/2002 3:40:32 AM PDT by soycd
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To: rface
It's hard for me to figure out from this thread, and accompanying links, what actually happened at OSU yesterday. My nephew was among the graduates and his family was planning to attend. I'll call my brother this weekend to get the lowdown.

I'll also say this: It was wrong in '93 when x42's people kept about 200 of us away who turned our backs on him at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, and it would be wrong if security removed people just for turning their backs on W.

48 posted on 06/15/2002 4:23:09 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Severonius
Word of advice if you're still lurking--I am usually asleep at 3:30 am ET. Try posting to me during normal hours, and I might be able to respond to your crap before it's deleted.

But to answer your question--I would be seated during the speech, you idiot. Maybe you're the type who stands during a baseball game even when nothing's happening on the field? Do that in Yankee stadium and you'd get your head knocked in.

49 posted on 06/15/2002 5:36:12 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: leadpenny, all
I am anxious to here what your sources have to say.
I also checked the Columbus Newspaper and they indicated that an updated story will appear in todays issue.....

Here's a story from REUTERS that does not mention anything about protesters:

Boston Globe June 15, 2002, REUTERS, Adam Entous

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Tapping into a wave of patriotism generated by the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush challenged college graduates yesterday to reject a ''culture of selfishness'' and serve the nation as volunteers fighting ''tyranny and terror'' and fostering good deeds.

''You will determine whether our new ethic of responsibility is the break of a wave or the rise of a tide. You will determine whether we become a culture of selfishness and look inward - or whether we will embrace a culture of service and look outward,'' Bush said.

''Service in America is not a matter of coercion; it is a matter of conscience. So today I'm making an appeal to your conscience, for the sake of our country.''

Bush directed his message to the more than 6,000 graduates at Ohio State University one day after AOL Time Warner, Home Depot, and other major US corporations promised to mobilize their workers in an unprecedented expansion of volunteer programs, including the new Citizen Corps, to help fight terrorism at the local level.

According to the White House, applications for AmeriCorps have increased by more than 70 percent, and Senior Corps programs have experienced a 400 percent rise. More than 45,000 people have asked for applications for the Peace Corps, which currently has 7,000 volunteers serving in 70 countries.

The Sept. 11 attacks and the US-led war on terrorism that followed have given Bush a new platform for a theme he first sounded as governor of Texas and then turned into a campaign vow to ''usher in an era of responsibility.''

He has called on all Americans to give two years - or 4,000 hours - of their lives to community service. He said today's graduates would determine whether America's ''feel-good'' culture will be replaced by an ethic of self-sacrifice in honor of the more than 3,000 people killed in the attacks.

''America went from a feeling of security to one of vulnerability, from peace to war, from a time of calm to a great and noble cause. We are called to defend liberty against tyranny and terror. We will bring security to our people, and justice to our enemies.''

''No one can tell you how to live or what cause to serve,'' Bush told the graduates and an estimated 60,000 family and friends who packed the university's football stadium for the ceremony.

''But everyone needs some cause larger than his or her own profit. Apathy has no adventures. Cynicism leaves no monuments. And a person who is not responsible for others is a person who is truly alone.''

Recounting the bravery of the firefighters who rushed into the burning World Trade Center towers and the US soldiers who died in Afghanistan, Bush said the nation ''relearned something large and important: The achievements that last and count in life come through sacrifice and compassion and service.''

''Some believe this lesson in service is fading as distance grows from the shock of Sept. 11 - that the good we have witnessed is shallow and temporary,'' Bush said. ''Your generation will respond to these skeptics - one way or another.''

A senior administration official told reporters that Bush ''derived'' his speech in part from the teachings of a wide range of philosophers, from Aristotle and Adam Smith to Alexis de Tocqueville and Pope John Paul II.

After delivering the address, Bush flew to Houston, where he visited a summer reading camp for Hispanic children.

''Children can realize the great American dream - start right here, learn to read, go to college, and succeed in America,'' he told about 40 youngsters. Bush listened while 6- and 7-year-olds read from ''America: A Patriotic Primer,'' an alphabet book written by Lynne Cheney, the wife of Vice President Dick Cheney.

''Mrs. Cheney is married to who?'' Bush asked. After a long pause, a child replied: ''You.'' Bush was momentarily nonplussed, then burst out laughing. ''Vice President Cheney,'' he said. ''I'll be sure to tell her your answer though.''

Later, Bush was headlining a fund-raiser expected to bring in $1.2 million for the campaign of Governor Rick Perry of Texas and $500,000 for other Texas Republicans.

This story ran on page A2 of the Boston Globe on 6/15/2002.

50 posted on 06/15/2002 5:59:15 AM PDT by rface
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So, some students wanted to turn their back on Bush while he spoke and they were removed and threatened with jail if they protested? Sounds pretty fascistic to me. Change the names and imagine it was Clinton and then tell me how you'd feel about it. In fact, stuff like this did happen under Clinton and I recall reading some rightly outraged posts about it. Bush is President, not King. People have a right to peacefully show their disdain for him.
51 posted on 06/15/2002 6:20:12 AM PDT by jaime1959
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To: Prophet_Margin
Thanks, I don't know what I was thinking but realized my error shortly after my post!! I think I got all dumbed down reading at the DU for the first time!!!! Posted with tears in my eyes from laughing and confused myself. Oh well, we live we learn, no more DU for me!!!
52 posted on 06/15/2002 6:45:36 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: rface
My brother won't get back to Toledo until later today or tomorrow. Maybe I'll talk to him on Sunday.

The Cincinnati Enquirer did't mention anything about protestors in their article.

I couldn't find where The Cleveland Plain Dealer even covered the speech, and

The Columbus Dispatch requires a password and I don't do passwords for any newspaper.

53 posted on 06/15/2002 7:47:10 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Right Wing Professor
The New York Times and AP stories didn't even mention protests.

So their stupid plan to get on the news flopped bigtime. Back to Square One for the DUmmies.

54 posted on 06/15/2002 9:19:27 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: alisasny
My favorite posting on the DU site was "This will crush Bush". Does everyone there have delusions of relevance?
55 posted on 06/15/2002 9:27:51 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: hellinahandcart
Well, in this case that would not apply, as they were turning their backs when *everyone* was standing. What of the case where the Editor in Chief of the Sacramento Bee was prevented from speaking? Is sauce for her sauce for the President?
56 posted on 06/15/2002 9:58:30 AM PDT by t47k
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To: leadpenny
Ohio State U.- Arrest Made - 'Sacrifice for a greater good' commencement - Bush Haters in an UpRoar!

Here's the Columbus Dispatch Article...

57 posted on 06/15/2002 12:26:36 PM PDT by rface
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To: rface
We all have the right to disagree,AWD included. Preferably peacefully and intelligently. The part that always gets me though is AWD and the attitude of those like him. I am reminded of small children. The left really, really needs to grow up.
58 posted on 06/15/2002 12:27:54 PM PDT by earonthief
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To: t47k
Well, in this case that would not apply, as they were turning their backs when *everyone* was standing

The way I read it, on another thread yesterday, the protestors had planned to stand with their backs turned for the duration of the speech, not just the beginning or end. How else do you think Bush and everyone in the crowd was supposed to "get" their message? As Angry White Democrat pointed out, you couldn't TELL who was turning their backs when everyone was standing up; it was just a sea of standing people. You'd only be able to notice the standees when the folks who WEREN'T brought up in a barn sat down to hear the speech.

That's a pitch-their-butts-out offense if you ask me.

I don't think Reagan ever made a speech anywhere during his two terms where he was not heckled. That's not my objection. If Bush was simply giving a speech, I would expect there to be some dispruption. But this crowd planned to disrupt commencement ceremonies simply because Bush was the speaker. That's different. And Ohio State has the right to run their commencement ceremonies any way they wish.

59 posted on 06/15/2002 2:09:35 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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See?

"For starters, if you're a graduate or a guest, just remember to stand up silently and "turn your back" while Bush gives his commencement address. It's that simple.

"This is a form of protest based on the principles of Satyagraha -- nonviolent noncooperation with evil -- used by the Mahatma Gandhi and later by Martin Luther King, Jr.. Please remember it is important that you stay silent and do not resist arrest even if you've done nothing wrong (the charges will most likely be dropped, it is just a convenient way to detain you). If you must sit down, turn your chair around or sit in the chair backwards, to indicate your objection to the Bush regime.

"For others, spread the word. Crowds mean media attention. And we need media attention- Lots of it. Encourage everyone, your friends and family, fellow students, anyone, to participate. http://www.turnyourbackonbush.com/

60 posted on 06/15/2002 2:26:25 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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