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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 18
06/23/02 | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 18

Posted on 06/22/2002 10:17:01 PM PDT by stlnative

June 22, 2002 - Late Evening Report

MARTINSBURG, W.Va. (AP) _ A hospitalized drifter sought for questioning in the disappearance of a teenager in Utah was alert and talking with investigators Saturday.

Bret Michael Edmunds, 26, was cooperating with investigators, said FBI spokesman Kevin Eaton. Salt Lake City police sought Edmunds for questioning in connection with the disappearance of 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart from her family's home June 5.


Wanted for Questioning

Bret Michael Edmunds

  • 6"2'
  • 235 lbs.
  • 1997 green Saturn
  • Considered Dangerous

"He's talking to us. He's not telling us, 'go away, I want a lawyer,"' Eaton said.

But investigators won't say what information Edmunds is giving them. They will release information after Salt Lake City detectives have a chance to interpret Edmunds' responses.

Questioning Edmunds likely will not substantially affect the Smart case because he was only a possible witness and not a suspect, Eaton said.

"We've been hitting five to six promising areas, and we've been concentrating on a lot of important stuff" not related to Edmunds, Eaton said.

Edmunds remained in serious condition in a secure section of intensive care at City Hospital under the watch of U.S. marshals. He is being treated for a drug-related liver damage.

"He's conscious, he's coherent and he's talking," hospital spokeswoman Teresa McCabe said.

Edmunds, who appeared at the hospital Friday, began talking with a Salt Lake City police officer and FBI agent Saturday morning. Doctors monitored Edmunds' condition to ensure he was up to the questioning.

McCabe said Edmunds would stay at the hospital at least three or four days. She would not divulge details of his condition, citing confidentiality rules.

Edmunds is being held on a federal warrant charging him with fleeing to avoid prosecution for a probation violation. The charges are unrelated to the Smart case.

"He is still not a suspect at this time," Police Chief Rick Dinse said. "He's a question mark, and we want to put a period on that question mark."

Edmunds, who was living out of his Saturn sedan, had been seen in the Smart neighborhood the week the girl vanished. While Elizabeth's sister described the alleged kidnapper as a 5-foot-8 man, Edmunds stands 6-foot-2.

A Saturn found in the hospital parking lot was photographed, impounded and towed away. Police saw nothing suspicious through the windows, and are seeking a search warrant.

Also Saturday, sheriff's deputies said cadaver dogs were unable to find a scent at a subdivision near Salt Lake City. A police search was prompted after dogs owned by search volunteers apparently picked up an unusual scent.

Edmunds has been sought since last fall for outstanding warrants on charges of fraud and assault on a police officer in Utah. He had served 60 days and was put on probation in 2000 for stealing and forging checks.

When he is physically able, Edmunds will be taken to a magistrate for a hearing, the marshals service said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Utah; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: bretedmunds; elizabethsmart; kidnapping; utah; westvirginia
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To: freedox
Good point about the younger child being a chaperone for the older one. I've used that ploy with my daughters...."Yes, you may go to the mall, but Suzie and Janie are going with you, and will stay with you at all times". Of course, older sisters have been known to bribe younger ones.
181 posted on 06/23/2002 10:10:24 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: freedox
Maybe the distractions are serving to keep the public and the family placated while the police do their work.

The only problem though is that you then have a LOT of people out there helping with the search that are NOT ebing given good info. Hard to do good searches on no or bad info.

Time will tell, of course, but they may have traded time for keeping their info to themselves.

182 posted on 06/23/2002 10:13:30 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Palladin
"Of course, older sisters have been known to bribe younger ones."

Indeed they have......bribe or threaten. It's amazing how younger siblings will stay quiet about things they have seen.......for a while, anyway.

183 posted on 06/23/2002 10:18:21 AM PDT by freedox
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To: John Jamieson
You asked for a summary of the NE article. Here's what it said:

Police probing the mysterious abduction of 14 year old Elizabeth Smart have made a discovery that's rocked them to the core - a shocking gay sex scandal involving her father Edward and two uncles, The Enquirer has learned exclusively.

Beneath the family's respectable facade authorities are unearthing horrendous facts that will forever change the devoutly religious city of Salt Lake, and perhaps explode the case wide open.

Shortly after Elizabeth's disappearance, police conducted a search of the family mansion.

And the Enquirer learned there was a lot to hide.

1.The police confiscated Edward's computer - and found several explicit pornographic homosexual pictures on the hard drive.

2. During one search of a family member's home, police found a horrifying journal alleging the mind-boggling activities of all three brothers.

3. It contained explicit allegations of homosexual activity concerning Dave, Ed and Tom, including preferences for sadomasochism.

4. Ed and his wife were reportedly having marriage problems.

5. Tom's computer showed attempts at deletion, but more than 100 pages of gay porn were retrieved.

184 posted on 06/23/2002 10:20:05 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: ET(end tyranny)
"Hard to do good searches on no or bad info."

Yes it is. Like looking for an alleged kidnapper without being given a physical description. I have to believe that the police have done what they have done for a reason......we just don't know the whole story yet.

185 posted on 06/23/2002 10:24:27 AM PDT by freedox
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To: brigette; All
Listen you guys.

I understand that we have all seen the news about this story and have even commented on it in different threads, but creating a daily thread for a girl being kidnapped is rediculous.

There thousands of Children that are missing every year in this country. Why is it that many of you are following this one? Because you keep your face in the News too much.

Focusing in on one situation and harping on it, simply because the mainstream media does is pretty lame. We are by and large, conservatives who shouldnt get caught up in the hype.

We're all concerned for any child that is kidnapped but this is no longer about us commenting on the news as much as it is just plain vanity.

It smacks of Jon Benet Ramsay and OJ Simpson civil trial or the Condit nonsense as well as the other kind of stories we were focused on while Muslim terrorists were here preparing themselves to bring down the World Trade Center, Pentagon and White House and in doing so kill thousands of Americans.

I dont mean to imply that we are to not hear anything else but "Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism" but be real you guys.

We are currently involved in a War. Thousand of people have been killed so far and I am sure that thousands more will die in the days weeks and months to come. Harping on this story to the point of creating a daily thread is just nonsense.

Some of the people here have surrounded themselves with this story....get a grip.

186 posted on 06/23/2002 10:25:31 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
I disagree - even in the midst of war life goes on. Just because we are at war doesn't mean that we can't show interest in other events going on.

I agree that there are other missing children out there that need the same attention. I think what is so interesting about this case is that with all the high profile law enforcement involvement it means that they have a good idea of what is going on... with others cases the trail seems to go cold pretty quick. Besides that the VAST majority of "missing children" more often than not have to do with custody issues - it's not every day that a child is taken from her room.

As to the issue of the daily thread - I think this is the perfect example of when a daily thread should be used. There's not a lot of clutter with other posts, and if someone's not interested in - THEY SHOULDN'T READ IT!

187 posted on 06/23/2002 10:34:29 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: Palladin
Maybe Elizabeth threatened to tell someone about dad and uncles...at fourteen is not uncommon to spout off when angry.
Missing the harp concert...was the school notified she would be late, or did they just not show up. Would be nice to know if an announcement was made to the gathered families.
With grandfather's funeral and the school stuff...big stressors in the family.
Or could she have contacted some type of service to abused women who put her in hiding ?
188 posted on 06/23/2002 10:40:59 AM PDT by revolted
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To: VaBthang4
. Harping on this story to the point of creating a daily thread is just nonsense.

Then why are you participating in it to such an extended degree? You are like Ed saying that gay porn is sinful.
189 posted on 06/23/2002 10:41:11 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Partisan Hack
Molestation?
190 posted on 06/23/2002 10:43:07 AM PDT by JustPiper
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To: PoisedWoman
One video has stuck with me and bothers me. Elizabeth and her brother at the beach. Her brother acting all goofy and her with a stick in her hand standing over the grill, Elizabeth looks so 'vacant' so lost and not laughing at him, with a blank look, opinions on any of the videos of her?
191 posted on 06/23/2002 10:52:03 AM PDT by JustPiper
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To: JustPiper
opinions on any of the videos of her?

Yes. They have showed them far too many times. It is ludicrous and grotesque to see them so often. FOX is as vulgar in this coverage as the rest, it's just balanced vulgarity. Vulgarity without spin.
192 posted on 06/23/2002 10:56:49 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Semper911
Actually, I read Ed Smart ran over to the neighbor's house to warm them, the day after Elizabeth was kidnapped. All of their stories have been consistent, it's only the new rumors that keep popping up, to confuse all.
193 posted on 06/23/2002 10:57:15 AM PDT by brneyedgirl
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To: VaBthang4
Trust me, all of us are keenly aware of the daily Terrorist Alerts.

I lurk on these threads..and am interested in reading what others, besides CNN and FOX have to say about the case.

Suggest you change the channel.

sw

194 posted on 06/23/2002 11:12:29 AM PDT by spectre
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To: brigette
I'm confused about something. I may have missed it, but does anyone know how the time of abduction (1AM) was determined? Did the little sister look at the clock, or was 1AM a guess?
195 posted on 06/23/2002 11:13:11 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
it happened about 1:30am per the SLC Police Website
196 posted on 06/23/2002 11:28:11 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: All
News at the top of the hour,reported that the FBI and SLC police have finished their interview with Edmunds and are heading home. They reportedly said he was very cooperative and gave them permission to search his car, so they did not need a search warrant.I have not heard any mention of him having a lawyer present when questioned.One FBI profiler said they would know fairly early, after looking through the car, if he was involved.She listed 3 possibilities-the car would contain obvious and forensic evidence that Elizabeth was in there,the car could have been "sanitized" to try and erase signs of Elizabeth( heroin addicts on the lam, do not take time to clean their cars, so this would be a red flag) and the car would have no traces of Elizabeth.I would imagine that if this guy were the number one suspect,at least some FBI and SLC police would stay with him,until he's well enough to be extradited.His cooperation and the police leaving,make me think he didn't pan out.
197 posted on 06/23/2002 11:32:38 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: brigette
Re post #144: I wonder what caused the burst blood vessels on Elizabeth's face. The marks must have been pretty distinct for them to have been mentioned, but I assume they were relatively new since they don't show up in any of the photos I have seen. Also, would it be considered unusual for a Mormon girl to paint her toenails blue?
198 posted on 06/23/2002 11:35:22 AM PDT by freedox
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To: brigette
Let's just quit talking about this...police tell us lies, parents are lying ,etc. Who cares!!
199 posted on 06/23/2002 11:36:50 AM PDT by timestax
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To: VaBthang4
Oh, chill out. This site was born as a place for research and dot-conecting, and this is a good mystery. I'd post on threads about the mysteries surrounding WTC and the Pentagon, but those threads seem to get pulled. So, gay Mormon kidnapping it is.
200 posted on 06/23/2002 11:37:06 AM PDT by Plummz
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