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To: Nick Danger
Thank you,

I've heard these rants all to often and they don' accomplish anything. people need to get off their buts and DO Something to help the party get back to its foundations, Not win the other parties elections for them.
23 posted on 06/23/2002 11:11:25 AM PDT by tricky_k_1972
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To: tricky_k_1972
So sorry..it's not a 'rant'......

It's asking some questions...questions that some Republican's don't want to answer.

But by all means.....ignore all of us that have problems with GWB....and when he is not re-elected....I am sure we will hear from all of you as to why we didn't vote for him.

..and I'll bring some cheese to go with you whine.

redrock

25 posted on 06/23/2002 11:14:28 AM PDT by redrock
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To: tricky_k_1972
..do something..?

Easiest thing to 'do', is to drive my 'freerepublic.com'
bumper sticker around town. The second easiest thing is to not be afraid to disagree with a Socialist idea, that is presented within a conversation. Lost a couple of 'friends' that way. They wanted to stay ignorant, so be it.
32 posted on 06/23/2002 11:39:22 AM PDT by seenenuf
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To: tricky_k_1972
people need to get off their buts and DO Something to help the party get back to its foundations

I think that in turn comes back to the voters. In the end, "the party" is just a bunch of people trying to get elected. The reason there are so many RINOs is that there are so many people who vote for RINOs.

I believe that we are winning this struggle, but it is a long, slow process. It is essentially a struggle against a media establishment that has chosen to become the propaganda arm of our political opponents. From Global Warming to Tailwind to feminist claptrap, all that most people have heard for many decades is the liberal spin on events. That is now starting to change... partly because of the Internet, and partly because of Rush Limbaugh -- whose success demonstrated to Rupert Murdoch that there was a huge unserved market out there that could be as easily tapped via television as by radio. That gave us Fox News, whose roaring ratings success is finally causing the ground to crack around the leftist media monolith that for too long controlled almost everything people read or heard in this country.

I think half the battle is just having media outlets of size with which to get our side of the story out. Conservatives have not had that. The Internet has turned out to be a big surprise in this area... it's a much more influential medium than people saw coming, and we here at Free Republic have been a big part of that. People rant about "keyboard cowboys" not doing anything, but I think that except for our serious kookburgers, we provide a reasonable place where people on the fence can hear a side to stories that they're not going to get from their AP-supplied newspaper, and certainly not from Dan Rather and his ilk. I think this has value.

To me, a big part of "getting the party back to its foundations" is continuing to pound away at the voters... giving them a side to the news that they haven't heard -- and won't hear -- from the Press Democrat. My belief is that half of the population is fundamentally, natively hard-wired to accept conservative politics if they hear it well-articulated. For many years they had not. But now we, right here on FR, can participate in the media revolution that is finally giving conservative politics a voice that can be heard. Let the CNN's and the ABC's continue to stack their news shows with Clinton cronies and DNC hacks; they are no longer the only game in town, and they can no longer do these things without suffering for it. Let's help them suffer.

Where the voters go, the party will go. My suspicion is that most of the people who vote for RINOs are native, hard-wired conservatives who vote the way they do because they live in a sea of liberal media; they are as far to the right as a liberal media ever articulates. Bring them less liberal media, and they will move right. Let them hear conservative policies described as something other than the heartless throwing of widows and orphans into the street, and they will vote for these policies.

Move the RINOs and we move the party. I really think it's that simple.


38 posted on 06/23/2002 11:56:11 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: tricky_k_1972; Nick Danger
To: Nick Danger
Thank you,
I've heard these rants all to often and they don' accomplish anything.
People need to get off their buts and DO Something
to help the party get back to its foundations,
Not win the other parties elections for them.
# 23 by tricky_k_1972

*************************

How do you expect to return the Republican Party
to it's conservative foundations
by electing liberal politicians like George Bush?

What kind of message are you sending to future Republican officeholders?

230 posted on 06/23/2002 9:53:20 PM PDT by exodus
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To: tricky_k_1972
I've heard these rants all to often and they don' accomplish anything. people need to get off their buts and DO Something to help the party get back to its foundations, Not win the other parties elections for them.

How does supporting Republicans like McCain & Jeffords do anything but harm the party and pull it *further* from its foundations?

346 posted on 06/24/2002 11:58:57 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: tricky_k_1972; Nick Danger
tricky_k_1972 wrote: Always happy to accommodate new volunteers. Please add your specific helpful suggestions to this thread How Would You Go About Truly Reforming Our Political Parties?.
Please emphasize empirical evidence, preferably from your own successes. OK?
359 posted on 06/24/2002 12:47:54 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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