Posted on 06/23/2002 10:08:41 PM PDT by stlnative
B O R I N G as in your a dope!
You are B O R I N G go play with your tail!
Oh! B my Wings are so Golden accept they are Sticky now I am afraid they will be also Slimy! Got any suggestions?
Thanks. You've always treated me with great courtesy and I don't mean to give you the wrong idea.
I asked why the man is so highly esteemed. We knew only that he is in the business of repairing and then reselling houses. Owning a million dollar house is neither a positive nor negative character attribute. There is no virtue in being wealthy, nor is there lack of virtue in being less than wealthy, or poor.
LOL! I hold a home contractor license in the state of Utah and there aren't many that are naive and trusting or they'd likely be out of business forthwith. Maybe pennypinching, cornercutting, and downright criminal, but not naive and trusting.
As far as Ed SMart giving Ricci the car in exchange for work done on the home, so what? It was probably beneficial to both parties to do so
So what?!!! The state of Utah as well as the federal govt have specific laws to deal with that type transaction/barter with good reason.
Example: I can hire a licensed painting subcontractor to paint a house at $40 an hour. No other costs incurred and the job is subject to warranty.
I can hire a journeyman painter for $20/hr and in actual cost it winds up pretty close to $30/hr, since I must pay FICA, worker compensation. unemployment, and liability insurance.
An unlicensed competitor, such as it appears Smart is, can hire guys off the street like Ricci and pay $10/hr. Total cost = $10/hr...no taxes, insurance, etc. to worry about unless he gets caught.
There's a lot of money left on the table for these unscrupulous types. Legitimate Utah contractors run up against this all the time.
If I am wrong about Smart's business I will apologize. It is just that I have seen so many do this "real estate broker" ploy to circumvent the contracting laws.
Hogwash!
No but it does say something about your ability to accomplish.
Remember that they also had a large family, and that they are well-regarded in their Church and community.
Actually, from the sound of it I took it that you were counting "being rich" against him.
Thus my "Dick Gephardt" comment.
Accomplishment without honor is not much of an accomplishment.
If he accomplished playing by the rules, I salute him. Otherwise he's just another "success by any mean" sheople.
Remember that they also had a large family, and that they are well-regarded in their Church and community.
Might be a large family where you are but not in Utah. He didn't purchase the home with the intent to house his family did he? I was under the impression that it was a speculative business decision. He'd fix it up and sell at a profit, living in it meantime. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Please explain "well-regarded by their Church and community." As far as I know he was not a prominent figure in SLC.
No apology from me will be necessary re my suspicions of Smart's business practices. The man is a crook.
Partial transcript of his 7/10 press conference:
I...I paid him...uh, you know...with the car...we had a contract on the car...and he was supposed to work...you know to help pay that off...which he did...and I did pay him...you know...some cash...I can't remember if I paid him check or not...I've had no(?) over the course of building my home I've had...you know...temporary work that I've picked up for the day and...you know...I've paid them cash. Sometimes...sometimes there's a problem where they don't have IDs...they can't cash checks so...you know...that's basically...
Yes, what he did was probably against some regulation somewhere, and if they want to prosecute him for it, then let 'em do so.
But you're trying to trump this up and extend it into something like conspiracy to commit murder.
You sound nuts, to tell the truth.
If you consider every person who ever paid someone cash for a job "a crook," then you'd better lock up 3/4ths of the populace.
Yes, what he did was probably against some regulation somewhere, and if they want to prosecute him for it, then let 'em do so.
This is not about Aunt Edna paying the neighbor boy to mow the lawn. Ed Smart is the proprietor of a business and as such has legal as well as moral obligations in managing his company. It might not seem a big deal to you, but it surely is to honest Mormon and gentile businessmen in Utah who choose to honor their civic duties (play by the rules), yet must compete against the dishonest, greedy ones.
But you're trying to trump this up and extend it into something like conspiracy to commit murder.
That is a lie.
You sound nuts, to tell the truth.
OK
Meanwhile, I really want to understand how you think this means the Smarts "abducted" their own child.
Good luck, since I don't believe they did. Keep dreaming
What I do believe is that now that I know that Smart is a less than trustworthy citizen, it is very possible that he has been less than forthright with the police regarding his acquaintance and/or business dealings with dirt bags other than Ricci.
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