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The disk story makes perfect sense - can't store a PP presentation on a disk. BUT why did the GOP use a hotel projector????? Can't they think ahead and use one from the White House??

On the Leak story - what has happened to the tight group around Bush lately -- we hear daily leaks now. Is this really the result of Hughes leaving -- or is the WH doing this for a reason??

1 posted on 06/24/2002 3:08:22 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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But, in fact, Republicans now believe there was no disk...

What Republicans would those be?

And who's the 'white house source'?

Sounds more like the whole event was fabricated, disk, presentation, and all.

2 posted on 06/24/2002 3:17:31 AM PDT by piasa
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This is a crock. The files DO NOT - Repeat - DO NOT get saved on a temporary file on the projection system. It's just not possible.
3 posted on 06/24/2002 3:17:50 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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...can't store a PP presentation on a disk...

Sure you can--assuming its less that 1.3M. Or, it could have been on a zip disk.

4 posted on 06/24/2002 3:19:44 AM PDT by TankerKC
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But, in fact, Republicans now believe there was no disk. They believe after a White House political staffer made the presentation at the Hay-Adams to a group of California Republicans, a Democratic Party sympathizer at the hotel copied the presentation off of the temporary file that was created in the hotel's overhead projection system.

More likely....it was stolen by someone during a coffee break.

6 posted on 06/24/2002 3:22:23 AM PDT by The Raven
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McAuliffe, Begala, Carville, etc.....what a pool of slime!
10 posted on 06/24/2002 3:38:06 AM PDT by ChasingFletch
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12 posted on 06/24/2002 3:47:42 AM PDT by backhoe
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Can anyone be surprised....this is standard operating proceedure for the little boys from Hope
13 posted on 06/24/2002 3:49:10 AM PDT by The Wizard
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There was no disk, because you can't easily store a full PowerPoint presentation on a disk like that.

Do it all the time.

23 posted on 06/24/2002 4:49:33 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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I don't believe the critical stories of Card, Ridge, and weekly revolving people in the dog house any more than I believe the story about the disk being 'mysteriously found' on the street.

Best not to respond to media fiction.....after all it's summer and they are getting desperate for ways to bash the President and lower his poll numbers.

24 posted on 06/24/2002 5:03:39 AM PDT by OldFriend
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According to White House sources, no one was impressed with Tom Ridge's performance on Capitol Hill last Thursday. "It certainly confirmed in our minds the reasons why we didn't let him testify before. It wasn't good," says a White House policy staffer.

The question I have is, why would Ridge allow himself to be 'hung out to dry' over the last eight months? At this point he has to feel used and abused by an administration that called on him to leave his secure elected position in PA to take, what has turned out to be, a thankless job.

25 posted on 06/24/2002 5:04:19 AM PDT by leadpenny
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This is the computer generation's version of Watergate.

It is imperative that the demonRATS be fully investigated. Follow the money. Who knew what when. Did McAwful pay for this service?

This is about as likely to happen as it is for Clinton to own up to his felonies.

31 posted on 06/24/2002 5:33:40 AM PDT by twntaipan
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I have a "library" of 45 powerpoint files from various presentations I have done. They range in size from 54 kb to 16,000 kb. The size of the file does not directly relate to the number of "slides". My biggest (16,000 kb) file has only 10 fairly fancy colored slides, but I have files only 1300 kb in size, which would fit on a floppy, that contain 18 black&white slides. One would need more information to know if the presentation in question could have fit on a floppy.
32 posted on 06/24/2002 5:37:17 AM PDT by FairWitness
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Don't think it is Hughes leaving although am not sure she is back in Texas full time yet. Some lower level staffers that have become friendly with the press should probably zip their lips! But then you have folks leaking that may not be all that loyal to this Administration. After all the President's schedule used to turn up on RATS.com before the place he was going got the schedule.

That presentation takes a series of discs if you are going to save it to discs. No way will it fit on one disc. Maybe the front pages of the sections on one disc.

The DemocRATS do have the presentation and so does the press so the RATS gave at least CNN and John King a copy because one of the charts he flashed on the screen is in the briefing.


35 posted on 06/24/2002 6:17:21 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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As some on the thread have pointed out, most projection systems don't function in this manner (copying files temporarily). Most projection systems act just like regular monitors.

However, as some others have pointed out, some high end models do.

Either way, the fact is my experience tells me that most professionals would not be using floppies in situations like this. Most professionals would be bringing their laptop, with the files on the hard drive.

I remember when the story first broke, the thought that kept popping into my head was "why the hell were they using floppies anyway? Wouldn't they have brought a laptop?"

36 posted on 06/24/2002 6:18:51 AM PDT by Dales
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I think it borders on the silly to say "You can't store a powerpoint presentation on a disc."
I do it frequently.
The story I read wasn't specific, but I assume they were talking about a COMPACT disc, with 650 MB or more of storage. A really big .ppt file is maybe 10 MB.
41 posted on 06/24/2002 6:28:17 AM PDT by Redbob
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a Democratic Party sympathizer at the hotel copied the presentation off of the temporary file that was created in the hotel's overhead projection system.

I'm not so sure I buy this load of crap either. I use these projectors many times per week and a projector of the type used to project a PowerPoint presentation from a laptop is nothing more than a projector.

You plug the laptop into one of the video input ports on the back of the projector.

There is no "temporary file" created. This would require an intermediate link to another computer between the laptop and the projector. And if that is the case (and there is no reason for it) then the Republicans got what they deserved for being so galactically stupid.

In any event, these projectors have no buffer to speak of and certainly no storage device. There can be no "temporary file".

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43 posted on 06/24/2002 6:31:50 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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...But then I read some of the other replies on this thread...now I'm wondering. I hadn't thought of the network possibility.
46 posted on 06/24/2002 6:35:43 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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PowerPoint has a feature called Pack-and-Go than enables a person to format a presentation over several floppy disks, and then set up the presentation on another computer. In essence, it is transferring the presentation to another computer. Since the White House is treating this as no big deal, I am wondering if it is a campaign of misdirection aimed at the Dims.
60 posted on 06/24/2002 6:57:07 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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No one is buying Terry McAuliffe's story that some innocent Democratic staffer happened upon a computer disk on a street corner that revealed the White House and the Republican Party's assessment of the 2002 elections.

Pardon me, but ABC bought Terry's story.

68 posted on 06/24/2002 7:14:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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Some hotels insist that you use their equipment. It is already all set up. That happened to me doing a presentation in Las Vegas at the Bellagio.

I would think the White House would be able to do what they needed, but if the projector is built in, it is easy to go with what is ready.

71 posted on 06/24/2002 7:18:51 AM PDT by mathluv
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