Arizona Burning Because Environmentalists Oppose Thinning The Forests?

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[Retired Chemist]

CALL FOR BETTER FOREST MANAGEMENT

Arizona Gov. Jane Hull compared the fire to an out-of-control train at a press conference Sunday in which she highlighted the need to thin the often-dense forest growth amassed after decades of battling wildland blazes. Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats.

“Mother Nature is saying to Arizona and the West, we have got to clean up these forests,” she said. “Nature is telling us that we got to get this under control.”

[Talkwire]

Dr. Bill Wattenburg on KGO has been lashing out at the Eco-Frauds and this topic for years. Here is a link to related artcles on Pushback.com, http://www.pushback.com/enviro nment/forests/

[Political Junkie Too]

Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats.

Oh, like raging forest fires don't disrupt habitats? Actually, they don't disrupt them, the eliminate them completely.

-PJ

[Right Wing Professor]

Sent to: environmental911@sierraclub.org

There is devastating environmental damage going on at the moment in Arizona and Colorado. The major culprits are litigious environmental organizations who have paralyzed forest management practices, leading to build-up of huge quantities of flammable dead materials. Please do something to stop this horror. I suggest Chapter 11.

[concerned about politics]

. Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats.

Too bad all the habitats and those living in them have been burnt alive. The environmentalsist refer to this as "beauty."

“Mother Nature is saying to Arizona and the West, we have got to clean up these forests,” she said. “Nature is telling us that we got to get this under control.”

"Be fruitfull and multiply, and subdue the earth." -- The Holy Bible.

[BlessingInDisguise]

Forests need to burn in order to sustain themselves. The whole ecology of a forest is built around fire. Many types of trees cannot even reproduce if fire does not melt the wax around their seeds. Every forest can use about two major fires every century in order to clear brush and regenerate itself. Otherwise they die.

[kaktuskid]

Unfortunately these fires are burning so hot that they STERILIZE the soil meaning nothing will grow for a long time.

[concerned about politics]

I wonder how the eviro-wacos 'feel' about all this air pollution they've created via their own policies.

[uglybiker]

Please do something to stop this horror. I suggest Chapter 11.

Better suggestion:

Since the human body is approx. 75% water, I'd suggest you and your eco buddies go stand on the fireline. As the intense heat causes your bodies to explode, the resulting release of moisture might be an effective firebreak.

Then again, maybe not. But at least one good thing will come of all this mess.

[chainsaw]

Here's a link to a live cam in the path of the AZ wildfires. It is at the Mogollon Air Park, AZ.

[uglybiker]

YO! If dey wanna 'feel' somtin', I got sometin' dey can feel right here!!

[uglybiker]

Site's not working right now. Must be overloaded.

[ChocChipCookie]

We heard on a local talk radio station that 40% of the BLM's budget goes toward the legal costs involved fighting lawsuits brought by enviro-nazis.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Ping!

[cake_crumb]

"Some environmentalists have fought the move, saying it would disrupt habitats."

Balony. Anyone who has worked out there, for any reason whatsover, knows the devestation that out-of-control wildfires can cause.

This is the SAME, EXACT ENVIROTERRORIST PROPAGANDA BULL $H!T WHICH CAUSED THE DEATHS OF SO MENY PEOPLE IN YELLOWSTONE. Do NOT believe this crap. Uncontollred wildfires not only riun HUMAN life, they commonly ruin ANIMAL life as well. And anyone with an IQ one point above that of a houseplant can guess that the particulates they dump into the atmosphere are not only dangerous to humans (Briton, hoof and mouth, 2000) but can effect the climate for years to come (BLIZZARDS 19993-19994 - MOUNT PINATUBO COMBINED WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN'S OIL WELL FIRES IN KUWAITE)

Err...calming down now....what exactly IS it with this current inundation of environazi propaganda we are suddenly recieving???

[Clara Lou]

I've flipped past CNN today several times. The Sierra Club and the other enviro-weenies are really taking some hits. The same has been going on all day on FOX News channel. Now, if only we could get them to foot the bill for the millions of lost dollars.

[B4Ranch]

You are the only other person I have seen write about the destroyed habitat. Poor animals, I wonder how many tons of carcasses are laying there becoming part of the soil? Then there is the endangered plant life.

Why aren't the tree huggers moaning these losses?

[MissAmericanPie]

Sue the letigious environmental organizations blind, drain and empty their bank accounts until they resemble the Salt Flats. Sue those that have contributed to these organizations, drain their pockets dry, hold them up to public scorn, jail them.

[cake_crumb]

"The whole ecology of a forest is built around fire. Many types of trees cannot even reproduce if fire does not melt the wax around their seeds"

Yeah, the Jackson Pine. Big deal. Controlled burns CAN be an aid to the overall health of forests in general, I agree...HOWEVER when the fuel outweighs the living flora it is nothing but a recipe for ecological and economical disaster.

The probelm with the environazis is that they are so totally brainwashed that they are able to see the "forest" - which is a microcosm - that they cannot see the "trees" - each individual of which is important to the continuing functioning of that particular microcosm.

We have gone from one extreme - the farming of the macrocosm - to the other - being so centered upon the macricosm that we fail to see the individuals which comprise it. Human beings, like it or not, no matter what end of the ideological scale you are on, are an integral PART of that macrocosm. We are neither "husbands" of the earth, nor it's "shepards". We're every bit as much a part of the food chain as everything else on this planet, and I'm tired of being told we don't have as much right to be here as everynody else. Walk out into the woods and meet a cougar or a bear. Puts things into perspective IMMEDIATELY.

Wolves, BTW are different. They are social animals more like us...which is why our ancestors were able to turn them into the ancestors of the modern dog.

[ClassicConservative]

OK, who thinned the forests for the millions of years before we were there?