Environmentalism frustrates fire victims

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, June 27, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

[JohnHuang2]

Thursday, June 27, 2002

Quote of the Day by RooRoobird14

[Havisham]

Do you think the Sierra Club fears a backlash? I doubt it. They're so nicely nested within Arizona's institutions. Even the Tucson Diocese holds its annual day on the golf course with this activist group. That's a whole other depressing story...

[Dr. I. C. Spots]

Do you really think that those tree huggers care about the forests? If so I have some wetlands for sale! The bottom line is always money; these fires will no doubt be the rallying call to raise money to save the forests for these hypocrites. They will no doubt blame the logging companies, the EPA, the park rangers, etc, for the results of THEIR meddling in politics. Lets not forget that these are the same people who hug trees, then drive spikes into them. Any good Boy Scout will tell you that you have to clear dead wood out of a forest to reduce the possibility of fires. But then again the tree huggers don’t like the Scouts either. It’s our fault for allowing these boneheads to become relevant in politics in the first place now we are paying for it. Most of their funding comes from Government money (our money) and it needs to come to an end.

[Lil'freeper]

I can almost guarantee that the hiker twit who started one of the formerly two fires considered herself an environmentalist. 1) she assumed that the rules didn't apply to her when she started her signal fire. Environmentalists are dripping with the 'I know so much more than the foolish little people so don't bother me with your silly little rules' attitude. 2) this attitude is echoed in that probability she was some 'city girl.' The folks living on the 'wild'erness boundary, whose livelihood often depends on the land, have more respect for and knowledge of the land than the idoit environmentalists and the weekend warrior city-dwellers. 3) she was stupid enough to be out of her league hiking up there. It is stupid to leave the trail or road if you don't have the skills to get back. It is even stupider to NOT realize that in the forests of Northern Arizona all you have to do is hike hard for half a day in ANY direction and you'll hit a road. You don't need a signal fire if you're sitting on a road.

Sorry about the incoherant rant, but this has been building for days. Was born and raised in Arizona and will always consider it my home. Went to college in Flagstaff (even trained as a wildland firefighter while there) and got more than my fill of arrogant and stupid tree-hugging environmentalists. My heart aches for those people who are in harm's way and I pray for the strength of the firefighters.

I feel better now that this is all out of my system.

[gaspar]

In Arizona and most of the West it is always advisable to hike with a companion. Note that the press will not publish the hikers name, I wonder why??

[CedarDave]

"It's predictable but also irresponsible to lay the blame of a legacy of 100 years of fire suppression and logging and overgrazing at the feet of the environmental community," John Horning, conservation director for the Santa Fe, N.M.-based Forest Guardians told the Albuquerque Journal newspaper.

These guys are the most radical of the radical. In NM they have shut down just about anything the FS might want to do before (prevention) and after a fire (salvage logging). Clearing an area before a fire? O.k., but you can not cut any trees greater than 5 inches in diameter. After a fire? Who would oppose clearing dead but standing trees after a fire? They (and their buddies on the Sierra Club) do. After all, they say, you have to build roads to get the timber out. And, by the way, you might disturb spotted owls and other wildlife. Like there are any owls left after fire that burns with such intensity that sand is turned into glass, and the ground is sealed tight against moisture infiltration. < /rant>

[goodieD]

They should be more than frustrated, they should be angry enough to start a movement against such groups being allowed to influence anything stronger than their own stupid members. They should not be allowed to dictate public policy, in fact, I'd love to see some criminal charges against them for contributing to these fires.

[madfly]

ping

[sauropod]

Ping for later.

[Grampa Dave]

We have the same anti human enviral nazis in N. Kali and Oregon.

First they make the forests their Druid Cathedrals and block any removal of dead trees, brush and brush that will burn even when alive.

When the fires happen, and they will will with this anti human Druid agenda/religion, they block any attempts to salvage/log the dead trees.

It is time to declare war on these enviral nazis for our survival as a nation. They do more harm to America/Americans with 24/7 anti American Agendas than the al Qaeda terrorist do.

If al Qaeda had created this tinder box situation and fires were devoring several states, we would be screaming for their heads.

I see no difference between the enviral nazis and al Qaeda!
The enviral nazis are terrorists with more danger to America than al Qaeda terrorists.

[JustAmy]

Bump

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting this.

Truth in titles would have the title of this oped saying:

Enviralist Nazis Endanger the lives and homes of any one living near Druid Cathedrals, (used to be called our forests)!

These Enviralist Nazis hate humans and represent more danger 24/7 than the al Qaeda terrorists. The al Qaeda terrorists have to work for years to harm us and kill us.

These Enviral Nazis can kill us with their agendas 24/7! The Enviral Nazis are anti American Terrorists, and it is time to lable them as Enviral Terrorists who hate Americans 24/7 for daring to be alive on this planet.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[mafree]

Some environmentalists just don't know how to deal with reality.

[Lil'freeper]

In Arizona and most of the West it is always advisable to hike with a companion. Note that the press will not publish the hikers name, I wonder why??

Yes!! Thank you! You're so right (knew I forgot something). You just don't hike alone- especially if you don't have map skills and water/essentials. And if you do go out alone, you leave info with a neighbor. I always left a map with the area I was hiking/biking in circled and a return date. Friggin signal fires are sooooo Hollywoodesque.

Yet, I heard a blurb somewhere that she likely won't be prosecuted because it was an 'emergency' situation. Codswallop. She better have a broken back to justify.... rant rant rant deep breath rant rant grumble mumble rant rant rant.......

[Havisham]

And a great rant it was. How long have we been told we can't log that 'old growth' habitat blah blah blah? Well, now there's no habitat and lots of animal destruction (something very unpleasant to think about). Shouldn't the meta-left and it's gang of lawyers and judges have to feel the consequences of their activism? If Arizonans can't get angry about this and exact a toll from the enviromental lobby, they can't get angry about anything.

[CedarDave]

Forest Guardians website. Caution: Do not visit if you have high blood pressure!!

Forest Guardians

[Grampa Dave]

Since I have high blood pressure under control, I will not go this site today.

Do us a favor just quote some of their agendas in situations like this.

Exposure of their real agendas are wonderful in times like this with the fires caused by their agendas burning out of control.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[justshutupandtakeit]

I was thinking about this the other day. If these terrorists were really smart they could start fires like this in state after state and do incredible damage. Expect it to happen.