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Supreme Court approves random drug tests for many public high schools
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 06/27/2002 7:07:44 AM PDT by RCW2001

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To: Kryptonite
Pretty humorous how you can tell they are druggies by their thought process they reveal when they write!! LOL! :)
41 posted on 06/27/2002 7:32:57 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Basil Duke
Exactly, why not legalize all drugs for everyone. Why not let the schools be drug dealers for our youth? I mean, what the heck should I care whether the local gubmint skool is handing out cocaine to little Archie before a swim meet? What an obnoxiously-ridiculous concept making drugs illegal is. Let's just dump the whole idea and expand our freedoms, Dude! Live free or die, ya know!
42 posted on 06/27/2002 7:32:58 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: TheOtherOne
...Good news!...If you hate individual rights and liberties...

You're right. This isn't good. No way I would allow a kid of mine to be "randomly tested" for any reason, whether he was a member of the football team or the French Club, or anything.

43 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:13 AM PDT by Flashlight
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To: Basil Duke
Get the facts before you post. No testing to attend, only testing for those seeking to participate in extracurriculars(a priviledge, not a right).

Testing for an illegality, BTW.
44 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:14 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: CA Conservative
Extra-curricular activities are not a right, and putting conditions on participation happens all the time.

Imagine the problems encountered had it been necessary for me to submit to a piss test to receive my conceal carry permit?

45 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:14 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: finnman69
See! That just proves they don't care!!
46 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:26 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Yep. Pretty much the same level of humor thrown at anyone who supports the decision.
47 posted on 06/27/2002 7:34:01 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Huck
It's just teenagers. They don't have rights

Teach them that when they are young, and they will continue to believe that when they are adults.

48 posted on 06/27/2002 7:34:36 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: RCW2001
This is VERY scary..just one more step on the path to totalitarian
government.
49 posted on 06/27/2002 7:35:21 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Flashlight
No problem then, good for you in exercising your parental discretion.

Just don't demand the right for your kid to participate in the school's extracurriculars. Ya'll can always form an outside independent football team. Renew the "Jocks versus Jellies" tradition!
50 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:27 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: nravoter
So what if the Feds or a state decide that anyone who wants to drive a car must submit to mandatory, random urinalyses?

Actually, this already exists to some degree. According to the implied consent law, if you are driving, you have consented to be tested for driving under the influence. If you are stopped,the police have the right to test you for alcohol through a blood, breath or urine test. If you refuse, you can lose your license, even if it is later found that you were not under the influence. That is because you agree to being tested as a condition of getting your driver's license...

51 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:34 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: FreeTally
Later, Justice Thomas was heard mumbling, "But I am glad schools were not allowed to do this when I was a kid".

Boy, your degree from the Clinton University of Slime has failed you in your lame attempt at smearing a person who has a far superior intellect than your pot-damaged grey matter.

52 posted on 06/27/2002 7:36:51 AM PDT by A2J
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To: Kryptonite
If parents won't give a ratsass about their kids and raise them properly, someone else will try (unforutnately). Parent's are idiots and should be held accountable as well.
53 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:00 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: TightSqueeze
Imagine the problems encountered had it been necessary for me to submit to a piss test to receive my conceal carry permit?

Bad analogy, you are talking about the difference between a privilege and a right (remember the 2nd Amendment?)

54 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:31 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Huck
It's just teenagers. They don't have rights.

Wrong. Every American holds unalienable rights. Minor's rights are held in proxy and exercised in their behalf by their parents or legal guardians.

A parent can assert a minor's right against searches without probable cause and a warrant, just the same as you or I can assert our own rights.

Children are not wards of the state.

55 posted on 06/27/2002 7:38:39 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: SouthernFreebird
...whats next, random neighborhood or house searches.

Part of Bush’s faith-based-initiative no doubt, when the Jehovah Witnesses’ come a knocking, besides watchtower, they will be carrying a search warrant.

56 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:13 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: CA Conservative
If they don't want to be tested, don't participate in the extracurricular activities.

The irony of all this is their logic is 100% backwards.

Kids inolved in some type of extra-curricular activity are less likely to use drugs than those that aren't, because (imho) they find something more productive to focus on then drugs. The testing program discourages any kid that might be experimenting with drugs from getting in extra-curricular activites and finding something more interesting to do than just hanging out with his friends doing drugs.

A better alternative would be to require anyone that does not participate in an extra-curricular activity to be tested. You're going to catch a much higher percentage in that group.

57 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:39 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Yeah, yeah, yeah, "coerced", eh? All of the sudden the Libertarians are unable to simply say no, to resist flowing with the lemmings, there backbone to act independently simply dissolved? I kinda doubt that.
58 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:55 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: PhiKapMom
Yeah! Disgusting how people want to live their lives without your JBT's feet on their necks.
59 posted on 06/27/2002 7:39:56 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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