Supreme Court approves random drug tests for many public high schools

Associated Press / SFGate

[philman_36]

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the...
Hey you! Shut up and piss in the cup!

Something is veeeeery wrong with us. /"Stripes"

No outrage?
Nope.
Figures.

[OXENinFLA]

And since we must make sure kids don't carry any drugs on their person FULL BODY CAVITY searches must now be performed on kids entering schools on a daily basis due to them leaving the gov't oversight at the end of each school day.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

No, but the first steps were eliminating their rights and conditioning them to sheep-like behavior.

[Diddle E. Squat]

One can easily argue that in many parts of the country it would be extremely difficult to function without the ability to drive. Hard to argue that not being allowed to play football is anywhere near as limiting.

But nice try, that's the best attempt I've seen so far on this thread.

[tacticalogic]

Works for me. There are many ways in which we treat minors differently.

The only problem with that is they aren't all minors.

[SouthernFreebird]

Wel I'm not a doper and neither are my kids.They are Straight A students in the gifted program......they also play and participate in after school activities to keep them occupied and give them some goals to keep the dealers from enticing them into drug use.


They should go piss test the ghettos if they want to find drug abuse, but they won't go for that cause that would be profiling and they don't have the gonads to go after the real problems.Just like the airport screenings of old white women instead of those who generates the problems.


This is a bullsh*t ruling and you don't have to e a doper to have a problem with government dictatorship.

[joyce11111]

Great...another victory.

[FreeTally]

Boy, your degree from the Clinton University of Slime has failed you in your lame attempt at smearing a person who has a far superior intellect than your pot-damaged grey matter.

Justice Thomas, who I will agree seems to be a pretty decent man, has readily admitted that he smoked pot in his younger days. Thus, if they would have tested when he was a kid, he more than likely would have never made it close to the Supreme Court.

[Diddle E. Squat]

But participating in extracurriculars is a choice comparable in some ways to that of seeking public office or fame. The rights to a few aspects of privacy(though certainly not all) diminish as public exposure increases.

[Viva Le Dissention]

No, Diddle. Not suprisingly, you just don't get it.

You are punishing children for standing up for their rights. You force kids to choose between their right to privacy and their future (university, career, etc.).

This decision effectively punishes kids for exercising their right to privacy.

"Oh, sure, you have a right to privacy, but if you don't piss when we say to, you have to be a hermit, walk to school, have no social activity within or associated with the school, or basically do anything that a normal teenager does."

Great--these are kids, not adults. Tell a teenager piss in a cup or quit the chemistry club, that is coercion. Moreover, tell them to piss in a cup or not drive to school, that's coercion. Tell them piss in a cup for face the reality of not getting into a quality institution of higher learning, that is DEFINITELY coercion. It's Big Government in the WORST way.

[Basil Duke]

Rather than legalizing drugs, let's just make the blanket assumption that all Americans everywhere are high on crack - and then force them to prove their innocence on a round the clock, every day basis. Public piss tests for everyone. Line 'em up right there on the square, nude to maximize their humiliation and then scream "hippie!" at anyone who dares disagree. Squat right there ma'am, and make sure you don't splash on that government over-seer's hand. That'd be another felony. It all makes sense to me, now. Thanks for showing me the light.

[freeeee]

One can easily argue that in many parts of the country it would be extremely difficult to function without the ability to drive. Hard to argue that not being allowed to play football is anywhere near as limiting.

It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.

ANY time a search is conducted without probable cause and a warrant, no matter how trivial a case, the 4th Amendment is violated.

[B Knotts]

There are other countries with policies like this:

China Executes 64 on Anti-Drug Day

But, the good news is that vouchers are constitutional, so people can finally start getting their kids out of the gov't indoctrination centers.

[FreeTally]

Extra-curricular activities are not a right, and putting conditions on participation happens all the time. You have to maintain certain GPA levels, etc. It is not an invasion of privacy, because the students have the right to refuse, and they are not denied any of their rights by their refusal - but they may be denied a privilege.

You know, I am so sick of this "its extra-curricular acrivities which are a priveledge" nonsense. EC activities are paid with the SAME TAXES USED TO PAY FOR CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. There is no "distinction" when it comes to public funds.

This is issue is exactly why I believe, if brought before them, th SCOTUS would rule that random testing on all students is just fine. Screw 'em.

[Flashlight]

...Just don't demand the right for your kid to participate in the school's extracurriculars...

Well, if I did I realize I'd have zero legal standing. But I doubt that would stop me. I'd at least vent to the principal or coach or whoever's idea the testing was. I'd hope (I'm dreaming of fantasyland here) that the coach would agree with me that there's no evidence or suggestion that the kid's on drugs, so let's just forget about the test in this case. We'll just "randomly select" someone else who doesn't mind peeing in a cup and everyone will be happy.

But what I'd *really* like would be a refund of the tax money I pay that goes to the extracurricular activites. Since I'm not participating, why should I pay? Now I'm really dreaming.

Renew the "Jocks versus Jellies" tradition! ...

I must admit I've never heard of this tradition, but I'd be all for reviving it.

[B Knotts]

Don't give 'em any ideas... :-)

Seriously, there are some here who would be OK with something like that.

[SouthernFreebird]

Great...another victory

Yea, for he Gestapo.......

[Lexington Green]

Hitler is smiling

[freeeee]

The rights to a few aspects of privacy(though certainly not all) diminish as public exposure increases.

Wrong. Rights are absolute. They depend not on wealth or occupation or status. They are a function of freedom afforded to all Americans, not just those who hide under a rock.

[Mrs.O'Strategery]

This is a bullsh*t ruling and you don't have to e a doper to have a problem with government dictatorship.

Well said. I've been sitting here fuming over some of these comments assuming that I must be a druggie because I disagree with this ruling.