FBI closes down three stores at two Florida Panhandle malls

wpmi ^

[Eagle Eye]

I'm amused by small shiny objects myself. ;>

Especially since they only let me draw with crayons.

[piasa]

I said this a long ago - FL is really cracking down on potential terrorists. Gov Bush is determined that this state will no longer going to be the hiding place for them.

We know, we know - but I still don't think it is legal to deport Democrats under the Patriot Act... :-D

[Eagle Eye]

Isn't that where a gang of weirdos had hidden a large cache of assault weapons, against the law?

Yeah, they owed about $400 in taxes, Koresh could have been arrested ata any time, especially when he offered to go shooting with the agents.

In your world, it seems, a $400 tax bill justifies a tactical raid with military asstes.

Or is it simply people with different religious philosphies that you hate?

[Eagle Eye]

University Mall made Fox news this morning!

[Illbay]

Not my point. My point was if these had been "white supremacists" you wouldn't have been able to squeeze a thread in edgewise, there'd have been so many organizing "FReeps" etc. in support of the victims of the "j-bt"s.

That's just the way it is around here the majority of times: It depends on whose ox is gored--and the color of the ox.

[FITZ]

Let's see: Waco. Isn't that where a gang of weirdos had hidden a large cache of assault weapons, against the law?

There's a big difference between this and Waco. Waco was the government going after Americans. In fact if the government had the FBI watching the foreign groups and noticing the Saudis were building mosques all over this country with their government money instead of worrying about American groups, much of what we're going through now could have been prevented.

[hopespringseternal]

Let's see: Waco. Isn't that where a gang of weirdos had hidden a large cache of assault weapons, against the law?

Uh, in case some new information has come up, I am not aware that the FBI or ATF ever found even one illegal weapon.

Even if they had, how can you compare anything about the two cases? I don't like the secrecy involved in these cases but the FBI conducted these arrests the way the ATF should have dealt with the Branch Davidians.

[HIDEK6]

It depends on whose ox is gored--and the color of the ox.

Avoid cliches like the plague.

[CWRWinger]

People at two Pensacola malls say the FBI has arrested three merchants there who appear to be of Middle Eastern of southern Asian descent.

Witnesses say agents closed Intrigue Jewelry shops at Cordova and University malls,....

And in the middle of the mall consourse, across from the jewelry store, is a little watch vendor stand manned by a couple of Israeli merchants.

[SauronOfMordor]

Let's see: Waco. Isn't that where a gang of weirdos had hidden a large cache of assault weapons, against the law?

That was the place where a bunch of wierdos owned a set of guns which (divided by the number of families living there) was LESS than average for Texas

That was the place where, instead of quietly arresting David Koresh on one of his frequent jogging runs thru town, the JBTs decided to open up with UNAIMED automatic weapons fire into a wood-framed building known to contain children

That was the place where many pounds a flammible powder (CS) was introduced into a wooden building known to contain lit kerosene lanterns, into a closed structure in direct violation of the instructions for using CS (which can be lethal, especially to children) when used in closed areas

At the point where the JBTs start locking families up in mosques and incinerating them alive, you may start making comparisons to Waco. NOT BEFORE!

[Eagle Eye]

My point was if these had been "white supremacists" you wouldn't have been able to squeeze a thread in edgewise, there'd have been so many organizing "FReeps" etc. in support of the victims of the "j-bt"s.

In your quest ot bash libertarians and other freedom minded people, you have attempted to make a point from an erroneous and unprovable assumption.

Koresh was not a white supremicist. So what if he was, as you put it, a wierdo? Wierdness doens't warrant being shot, gassed, and burned.

These arrests at the malls are of suspected illegal aliens and there is no indication that any of them were gassed and burned (Waco) or shot in the back or shot in the head (Ruby Ridge). In fact, it seems that the atocities happen to CITIZENS, not aliens. Satisfied?

[Eagle Eye]

Cordova mall made the news, too, I just missed it the first time.

[Illbay]

Koresh was not a white supremicist.

I don't really care what he was. Again, that's not my point; I'm just throwing out f'rinstances.

Let me try to be as generic as possible, so that you won't be tempted to nitpick the WORDS I use, and ignore the POINT I'm trying to make:

There are certain people and beliefs here on FR that civil "libertarians" will invariably defend, no matter how odious. E.g. is the constant drumbeat that Tim McVeigh was just a pawn, it was really the GOVERNMENT run amok that blew up the Murrah building. Apologists will come out of the woodwork to excoriate the "j-bt"s and let us all know how precarious are our liberties when "nice, normal, though certainly troubled" folks like McVeigh are in the sights of the Feds.

But these same people will clap and whistle as long as the object of Federal scrutiny--and presumably, Federal tyranny--are people who are the wrong sort.

Even though both sets of people are enemies of freedom and cold-blooded animals, at least the FIRST set are OUR "cold-blooded animals." We need to stand together against the cold-blooded animals who aren't like us.

It's just hypocrisy, and all your attempts at redirection won't make it so.

[Eagle Eye]

There are certain people and beliefs here on FR that civil "libertarians" will invariably defend, no matter how odious. E.g. is the constant drumbeat that Tim McVeigh was just a pawn, it was really the GOVERNMENT run amok that blew up the Murrah building.

Only two types of people really believe that McVeigh was the mastermind of the operation: government paid lackies (oops, even they know that McVeigh wasn't the brains behind it, they just SAY it), and complete morons who ignore the evidence that there were AT LEAST two blasts, that many of the government agents were tipped off, and that WITNESSES saw other people invovled. All of this is documented, and most was on OKC local news broadcasts.

Apologists will come out of the woodwork to excoriate the "j-bt"s and let us all know how precarious are our liberties when "nice, normal, though certainly troubled" folks like McVeigh are in the sights of the Feds.

Those, if any, defending McViegh as nice and normal (and I haven't seen ANY posts like that, can you provide nything to back up your assertions?) are as extreme as your knee-jerk blind defense of anything that the government does, no matter how egregious.

In your attempt to make a point, you have inadvertantly show how extremely out of touch and blind you are. The evidence is there, you refuse to look at it.

BTW, sorry about quibbling on your words. It's just that you used words to try to make a point and, as the volume of replies indicate, you chose the wrong words to make your point.

[philman_36]

Need to proff red batter.
LOL! I need some of that proff red batter myself at times.