5 rules for (CCW) Concealed Carry Weapon

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[AAABEST]

Never shoot to kill , shoot to live..........:o)

Worth repeating friend. You have my vote for King of the World.

If everyone followed this simple sub-section of the golden rule, we'd all be using guns soley for fun and shooting sports. They would be regarded as one views a set of golf clubs.

Nice thought isn't it? It's sad that people choose to use them to violate one another.

[hopespringseternal]

For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.

This may be the law in some places, but it is BS. Most men are fully capable of killing each other unarmed, and some are no doubt sitting in prison and cemetaries because they found that out the hard way.

People who think this way have seen too many movies.

[Squantos]

sufficiently intimidating.......tsk tsk tsk.....not paying attention to the text of the thread ?

All an agressor who is attacking you should ever see if the application of deadly force is justified are muzzle flashes as you conduct a failure drill on their person (2 to the chest and one to the head as fast as one may apply it accurately).

A scornful look or sneer or being 6 feet four inches tall and 312 pounds is sufficiently intimidating.........not a firearm brandished. Which BTW may land one in the same cell of ones agressor in most cases.....

Stay Safe, carry intelligent , shoot smart as a last resort !

[Squantos]

You have my vote for King of the World...........

LOL ! .......Thank You Sir ! You ever get down to Reed Knights shop in Vero Beach ?? I come out to Melbourne this X-Mas to visit my Bro and his family I'll look ya up and we'll go window shopping down there........

Stay Safe !

[AAABEST]

If there's any way we can time it right it would be great to finally meet you and I'd take a drive to do so. I'm guessing you don't get to meet many freepers up there in the North Pole.

Just got together for some range time with FReeper Joe Brower last weekend and had a nice time. I never miss an opportunity to meet others around here if I can help it.

[nuancey]

Thanks for the tips but I don't think a curled lip from me would have stopped the aggression coming from the 6'3" 250lbs. stalker. Nope, the only thing that shook that guy into sanity was the sight of that glistening perp plunker.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

to alaskanfan

Yes there is a duel standard.

Remember an unarmed subject is desired by politicans.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

This is another duel standard. The haves and the have nots.

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What part of "...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..." is not understood?

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Why should I trust a citizen who doesn't believe in all the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
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In the United States the Bureau of Justice research shows inmates serving time in state prisons during 1997 said they obtained their guns from the following sources in percentages:
Purchased from a retail store 8.3 percent
Purchased at a pawn shop 3.8
Purchased at a flea market 1.0
Purchased in a gun show 0.7
Obtained from friends or family 39.6
Got on the street/illegal source 39.2

* Well Damm there goes the gun show loophole argument*

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[CHICAGOFARMER]

to lideric

Brandish is probably a better choice of words. As you can see the author is UNKNOWN. I am just moving the cause along.

Good comment.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

to hopespringseternal

Very good post thought.

This version will pass most all DA's, Shooting guidelines. Personal issues of size.

[xsrdx]

Bump to the BANG LIST

[xsrdx]

This may be the law in some places, but it is BS. Most men are fully capable of killing each other unarmed, and some are no doubt sitting in prison and cemetaries because they found that out the hard way.

People who think this way have seen too many movies.

Agreed - remember the hockey-dad fatality. Had hockey fight VIC been packing, and shot his eventual murderer, he would have likely been sent to the graybar hotel for an extended stay.

[Redbob]

I think I'd make Rule #1: Your weapon must be loaded!

[cmak9]

"Had hockey fight VIC been packing, and shot his eventual murderer, he would have likely been sent to the graybar hotel for an extended stay."

Which probably would have been better than the extended "dirt nap" that he is taking now. "Better tried by 12 than carried by 6!"

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Agreed - remember the hockey-dad fatality. Had hockey fight VIC been packing, and shot his eventual murderer, he would have likely been sent to the graybar hotel for an extended stay. Many issues did not come out the the public the victim was had a long criminal record including assault.

You bring up an interesting point. The exception.

For every good principle their is an exception.

When it comes to life and death, never take a knife to a gunfight. Or perhaps the first branishment the fight would have never started. Remember, Citizens who carry represent themselves seven times less likely to be involved in all types of crimes.

Here are the actual figures for TEXAS CCW. You are safer standing next to a CCW carrier that the average citizen in the United States.


http://www.freerepublic.com/fo cus/news/706458/posts

Decline of the Violence Policy Center

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[archy]

It occured to me recently that most small women (like myself) almost always carry a small weapon for obvious reasons. While my baby Glock is a great technician, I'm thinking a piece along the lines of Felicity Shagwell's would actually be a much better deterrent. And, the laws being what they are, I'm more interested in deterring than shooting.

Concealment would be the only problem.

BTW, can anyone tell me what that shiny revolver Miss Shagwell lugged -is?

It appears to be a 4-inch barrelled revolver, possibly a Smith and Wesson Combat Masterpiece or Combat Magnum- it's a bit difficult to tell if it's nickel-plated or stainless, and it might even be one of the larger magnum revolvers built on the larger *N* frame, such as *Dirty Harry's* well-known Model 29 .44 magnum, better suited to an Eastwood-sized San Francisco cop that to Ms. Graham's more compact but curvier bod. A pre-sellout used S&W M66 stainless .357 would seem a close starting point, but I'd have to review the movie to tell for certain- my glasses were broken the night I saw the film with friends, so I missed a detail here and there.

You're wrong about at least some smaller-stature women in chosing hardware from much of what I've seen, however. The most common reason for going to smaller handguns seems to be in hopes of finding a handgun well-suited to the smaller and daintier female hand, but that's not always the case. My own female partner through the days when Ms Felicity would have been at it was fond of the 9mm Walther P.38 military service pistol and noted that it was not only as easy to carry in her purse as a smaller shootin' iron, but was easier to find in a hurry amidst all the other jun- necessities she kept in there. Likewise the wife of an Illinois State Cop pal not only herself carried a duplicate of her hubby's 9mm M39 service pistol, but carried 4 extra magazines for the two of them in the external pockets on her purse's outside. And I lost a fine old well-worn .45 Colt Combat Commander as a gift to a former co-worker upon her enlistment and subsequent commissioning as an officer and rotary-wing pilot and felt less bad about the loss after later hearing from her that it was the handgun she carried during her tour during the Gulf War. Not only can women get away with larger hardware carried aboard the steamer trunks that some use for purses, but since shot placement is not necessarily as critical with the more serious artillery, many concerns about less-than-perfect shot grouping become less worrisome so long as the target is at least generally centerpunched.

But a couple of other Felicity carry pieces are possible, and were I in her platform shoes, I can think of a couple that would work, though maybe not *pure* 1960s vintage.

So, am I a groovy boy?

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[nuancey]

Groovy post Baby! You're correct about some women carrying the big pieces, it's just that all the female carriers I know tend to carry the smaller because none of us carry purses anymore. We're a bunch of "dainties" that had our purses snatched at some time.

Great pics. Thanks! But I hope you got your glasses fixed by now because the movie is a lot of fun.

[pocat]

Thanks for the ping to this refresher course.

It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun.

When I started to CCW, "someone" gave me this bit of advice via private FReepmail. Up to that point, I had never considered this aspect of CCW. It has probably saved me a lot of hassles with former anti-gun co-workers. Most of them had already branded me as the resident right-wing kook, and I didn't need to give them anymore ammo...

Thanks.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

To pocat

To CCW is for your protection. You are not a law enforcement officer. It is best to smile and act normal but be prepared.

Good point.

[RogueIsland]

Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested.

Something similar happened to an acquaintance of my family. He was involved in a minor fender bender with someone angry and not very tightly wrapped. The acquaintance had a concealed hangun on him at the time and at some point in the incident the other person noticed the firearm (I think with all the confusion and fuss, the man's shirt rode up for a moment over the revolver grip protruding from the IWB holster).

So the angry motorist decided to tell the cops he was "threatened with a gun" by this guy. It was ugly for awhile, but fortunately it eventually got smoothed over (after a period of some uncertain weeks). Fortunately, there are usually witnesses to fender benders. If this had occurred in a situation without corroborating witnesses, it could easily have resulted in arrest and possible conviction.

Moral: you shouldn't HAVE to hide your gun in an ideal society, but it ain't an ideal society. There are just too many total butt holes out there just looking to make your life a living hell.