[Grampa Dave]

The final blow to me re the envirals was when we had the proposition against illegal aliens here in Kali.

At that time the destruction and garbaging of our outdoors by herds of illegal aliens was very evident.

The state, national and local enviral nazis of Club Sierra refused to join the rest of us in make it harder for illegal aliens to come into this state and country.

Then, it became very evident that they were a tool of the RATS and in some cases the RATS were a tool of the enviral nazis. They lost a lot of members with that stance.

However, we do not need to make this a race issue. No one detests illegal aliens any more than me. We can continue to point out how dangerous to all Americans these enviral nazis are in reality without us trying to play the race card.

[Sabertooth]

The state, national and local enviral nazis of Club Sierra refused to join the rest of us in make it harder for illegal aliens to come into this state and country.

Haven't some of the enviro groups in recent years come out against immigration altogether? I'm certain I've heard the Sierra Club mentioned in that light. Not sure if they distinguish Illegals in any way, though.

I recall a story a few years ago of an RV full of Cambodians headed from SoCal to NorCal for a wedding. For some reason, the RV was pulled over, and the cops found they were carrying over 60 endangered Desert Tortoises that they'd poached for some sort of ritual dish at the Cambodian wedding.

Kinda funny to consider the muticultural implications.