Dems Claim Bush and Cheney Killed Flight 93 Heroes

Newsmax.com ^ | June 29, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

[TheWriterInTexas]

That's it? Sorry, UJ, I hardly believe that's the best response you can claim, after stating emphatically that Bush never said anything like this in prior to 9-11. He most certainly did, and this snippet is part of a much larger press conference given in front of reports with President Vicente Fox prior to their departure to Toledo. They were talking in the context of the budget and reporter specifically mentioned social security. Go to the White House web page and look at the transcripts yourself. I'm tired of doing your homework for you.

Some silly fool over at MSBNC.com even wrote a huge smear piece on Bush over the same thing, proclaiming he never said anything like it. Perhaps you read that? Your proclamations on this thread parallel the article closely. Funny how someone without access to a nexis search engine could locate the phrase, but MSNBC couldn't.

P.S. Tell David he should do better homework. It's easier to wrip someone on what they DID say, instead of coming up short by speculating on what they didn't say.

[UncleJeff]

His favorite joke claims he said it during the campaign, in Chicago, not a few days before 9/11. And we were clearly headed for deficits BEFORE 9/6. It didn't happen. That's lying, regardless of Party. Or do Republican liars get a pass?? Was all the angst about Clinton lying a put-on??

[TheWriterInTexas]

I already proved that Bush said something similar BEFORE 9-11. I knew he said it during the campaign, in defense of his tax cut: as the Enlistment Coordinator for the KEYES2000 campaign, I followed the news very closely. As a result, his statement rang true when I heard the "joke".

Here is PROOF that Bush made the statement before the attack; he even reiterates in his own statement that he made this comment several times. If you even bothered to read the press conference (which was recorded verbatim), he did not appear to be "thrown" by the question at all; this was a PAT answer. Moreover, if this was such an issue (considering the budget battle prior to 9-11), why didn't the press jump on it then? I'll tell you why...these are REASONABLE exceptions and the press HAD heard it before.

If this bothers you so much, start doing your own homework and find out the truth on yourself instead of accepting someone else's report on another person's article as gospel. If you're so concerned about the truth, DIG FOR IT.

[UncleJeff]

I have to "prove" nothing. I submit that, like all politicians, GWB is a liar. To disprove my assertion all you have to do is produce ONE credible source, or one record, showing that he in fact said what he claims, repeatedly, that he said, in Chicago during the campaign. Either he said it there or he's a liar.

[UncleJeff]

Maybe he heard Al Gore say it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/articles/A11253-2002Jul1.html

[TheWriterInTexas]

Did I ask you to prove anything to me? No, I didn't. I asked YOU to keep digging and prove it to YOURSELF. That is the only way YOU are going to be satisfied. I'm not the one upset about it, you are. I remember Bush stating something very smiliar during the campaign; obviously, you don't.

I spent almost two years watching the media distort Dr. Keyes' words; it was so bad, the campaign starting sending out copies of transcripts to volunteers so that anyone who didn't see his speech would know exactly what he said, in the context it was spoken, instead of the spin.

Don't dig for me, UJ. Dig for YOU.

If I have time tomorrow night, I'll dig around some more myself and hopefully give you what you need to resolve this issue. I've got two sick kiddos, so it's going to have to be after they are settled down for the night.

Happy 4th of July.

[TheWriterInTexas]

Dear UJ:

Decided to dig a little tonight, while I'm still awake. This is what I'm finding:

Reprint of Herald Article

The Monitor

Associated Press

Meeting with Congressional Leaders

Reprint of Boston Globe article where then CANDIDATE Bush specifically states war as an exception for running into deficit budgets

Let me know if your research comes back with anything additional.

[UncleJeff]

Not a single thing in any of those that reflects what he claims.

Either he said it while campaigning in Chicago or he's lying.

Speaking of which, was he lying years ago when he said the SEC "lost" his insider-trading paperwork, or is he lying now when he says Harken's lawyers didn't file it?? Both cannot be true, so one is a lie.

[TheWriterInTexas]

Hmmm...let me make sure I've got this right:

Several of these reporters and commentators saw fit to write scathing commentary based upon campaign promises THEY remember him making, just like he claimed he did. I guess they were hallucinating or - gasp! - lying when they implied that he made those campaign promises. How utterly shocking! The press certainly would never lie about a Republican, would they?

One of the articles even quotes Bush on January 7, 2000, stating that war would be a necessary exception to running a budget deficit, but hey, since it's not specifically to a reporter in Chicago, it doesn't mean diddly, right?

Sorry, I'm going to save my angst for something a little more important. I was trying to be helpful, but since you're convinced that Bush is a liar, I'll leave you to your convictions. The folks who bother the follow the links can discern for themselves what they believe.