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Dems Claim Bush and Cheney Killed Flight 93 Heroes
Newsmax.com ^ | June 29, 2002 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:42:42 AM PDT by Paul Atreides

A web site with ties to the Democratic Party and ex-President Bill Clinton is charging that President Bush is most likely "personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93," claiming that evidence shows Bush and Vice President Cheney ordered the plane shot down on 9-11.

The left-wing web site Democrats.com goes so far as to contend that the famous photo depicting President Bush talking on the phone that morning aboard Air Force One was likely taken as Bush was authorizing Cheney to give the order to have Flight 93 blown from the sky.

"Here is a very likely scenario," says the web site. "Bush was approving the shooting down of hijacked airliners, which led Dick Cheney to order the shooting down of Flight 93 - with all of the Heroes on board."

The photo, offered earlier this year for $150 as part of a GOP fundraising package, has the Democratic web site complaining that sale of the picture was "a huge insult to the victims of 9-11 — who died never knowing they were helping raise big bucks for the Republican party."

The report, by Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik, blames Bush - and not the terrorist hijackers - for killing the Flight 93 heroes:

"A careful analysis of all available evidence points to a shootdown as the most likely cause of the crash of Flight 93 - thus making George W. Bush personally and directly responsible for the deaths of 37 passengers and 7 crew members on Flight 93."

Democrats.com accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating a massive cover-up by going along with the convenient cover story that it was the battle between Flight 93's passengers and the plane's hijackers that caused it to crash into a rural field in Shanksville, Penn.

"Certainly, the White House has every reason to lie," says the Democratic Party's web promoters. "After all, it would look pretty horrible if Bush and Cheney were responsible for the deaths of the crew and passengers about Flight 93, even if the planes were shot down to protect Washington DC."

"Unfortunately for the White House" says web site continues, "there is overwhelming evidence that Flight 93 was shot down - and no evidence at all that the Heroes succeeded in taking control of the cockpit."

In fact, no one has ever claimed that Flight 93's heroes "succeeded in taking control of the cockpit." Otherwise the crash might have been prevented. The question is, did their failed efforts to regain control distract the hijackers long enough to foil their ultimate plans to attack Washington, D.C.

Given their public comments to date, the families of Flight 93's heroes seem to have no doubt about the cause of the crash.

Last April, after hearing the in-flight recording of the plane's final 30 minutes in a special session arranged by the FBI, family members seemed convinced that their relatives' heroic effort to storm the cockpit - and not a missile from an F-16 - was what brought the plane down.

"I felt incredible pride," said Deena Burnett, whose husband, Tom, died on the United Airlines plane, told reporters after hearing the tape. "It was obvious they all acted heroically."

"I never doubted that there were specific individuals who worked together, and the tape confirmed that," said Alice Hoglan, mother of Flight 93 hero Mark Bingham. "I never doubted that the cockpit had been taken over by terrorists who were thwarted, and the tape definitely confirmed that."

Hoglan, who along with the other Flight 93 relatives was asked by the FBI not to discuss specifics, described the tape as "wonderful in a strange and odd way" - hardly the words of someone reacting to evidence that her son was killed on orders of the president.

Further proof of a shootdown, Democrats.com argues, comes from reports that debris from Flight 93 was discovered eight miles away from the actual crash site, a detail the continues to perplex those on both sides of the political aisle.

But if Flight 93 did explode in midair, there are other plausible explanations, such as the bomb the hijackers said they had and threatened to detonate, according to several passengers who relayed the news in cell phone calls to relatives.

But Democrats.com doesn't let details like that get in the way of accusing President Bush of responsibility for the crash and the ensuing "cover-up."

"The FBI has stated that there was no evidence of a bomb at the crash site," the web site argues. "If the hijackers detonated a bomb, it is hard to imagine a reason why the FBI would cover it up."

Democrats.com has at least nominal connections to ex-President Bill Clinton.

Former Clinton pollster Stan Greenberg sits on the web site's advisory board.

And last August, Democrats.com boasted it had "arranged with the office of former President Clinton for birthday greetings sent by e-mail to be delivered to him personally," adding, "Please join us in thanking the last legally elected President of the United States for his dedication to public service."

On its "Community" page, the left-wing web site explains:

"Democrats.com is the largest online community of Democrats. We have created a unique space where Democrats can meet, discuss, and work towards building a stronger Democratic Party.... Take our Voter Pledge to sweep all Republicans out of office."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
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I love it! This scum of the Earth is running scared! Rush was right when he said they really get looney when out of power.
1 posted on 06/29/2002 10:42:42 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
What the Dems need is the proverbial hot lead enema..
2 posted on 06/29/2002 10:46:12 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom

Well we'll know for sure just as soon as Carl gets the Press Release from the 'eww' that he has filed an FOIA to get the tape of the phone conversation. You know rooting out the corruption.......

3 posted on 06/29/2002 10:49:16 AM PDT by deport
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How like these scum bages to barf up something so vile. They are out of power and with ever dumb action like this, they are likely to run themselves totally out of business. They cannot stand President Bush and his men, and will do anything, anyplace to try to fine something will stick..I am so glad the President is above it all.
4 posted on 06/29/2002 10:49:28 AM PDT by cousair
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To: deport
So are you saying that Bush and Co. just may be responsible for this as the Dems claim?
6 posted on 06/29/2002 10:51:29 AM PDT by rdb3
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There is no doubt that if a terrorist has an airplane, any airplane, with people or not, and it is headed at the Capitol, it MUST be shot down..We cannot let these garbage mouth scum bags get away with this.
7 posted on 06/29/2002 10:51:49 AM PDT by cousair
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To: Paul Atreides
tin foil hats.
8 posted on 06/29/2002 10:52:08 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: sheik yerbouty
I can picture them bowing down in prayer before photographs of Bill and Hillary. They are the Church of the Kneepad.
9 posted on 06/29/2002 10:52:43 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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The photo, offered earlier this year for $150 as part of a GOP fundraising package, has the Democratic web site complaining that sale of the picture was "a huge insult to the victims of 9-11 — who died never knowing they were helping raise big bucks for the Republican party."

Which party is using 9-11 for political gain? The sad thing is that the Democratic Party seems to encourage this hideous hate-speech Web site in order to keep their Beserker Wing motivated. Good work shining the light NewsMax!

10 posted on 06/29/2002 10:53:13 AM PDT by inkling
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To: Paul Atreides; Orual; aculeus; general_re; All
The report, by Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik ...

Oh, him her it again.

About Bob Fertik

Bob Fertik is one of America’s leading Internet political strategists - and also a leading feminist.

Fertik is the co-founder of several feminist groups, including: Women Leaders Online, the first and largest feminist group on the Internet Women Leaders Online Fund, which created the Women’s Voting Guide, the first interactive tool for researching Congressional candidates Prochoice Resource Center, which trains feminist activists in grassroots politics Eleanor’s List, a fund for pro-choice Democratic women candidates in New York State

Fertik is also a writer and lecturer, including: Co-author of “Pro-choice Power,” the first guide to mobilizing the pro-choice majority Editor and publisher of Political Woman Newsletter, the first newsletter on women and politics Speaker at numerous conferences on the Internet, politics, and feminism

Fertik is also a consultant, including: Founder of I-Progress, the first Internet consulting firm for progressive non-profits Consultant to political campaigns, including Geraldine Ferraro’s 1998 race for the United States Senate

Fertik went to New York public schools, and has a B.A. in Economics from Yale, where he edited the Yale Graduate-Professional newspaper.

He is married to his college sweetheart Antonia Stolper, a law partner at Shearman & Sterling. He has been the at-home parent of their son Ted, a straight-A student and starting quarterback at Stuyvesant High School. He lives in New York City.


11 posted on 06/29/2002 10:54:09 AM PDT by dighton
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They also say ABC has made a "hard turn to the right". They really are out in "left "field!
12 posted on 06/29/2002 10:54:20 AM PDT by WKB
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The fake photo bit is very distasteful, and the people who put it out are idiots who only hate anyone who isn't a democrat, but I never even really considered the possibility that the plain was brought down by the passengers. Debris was found eight miles away. The intercepted phone calls were a godsend - what a sensational story. They would have had to go with a "bomb" story otherwise.
13 posted on 06/29/2002 10:54:38 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: dighton
He sounds like a homosexual.
14 posted on 06/29/2002 10:55:06 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: GWELO
Im sure it was shot down but what choice was there

"West of the Rockies, you're on the air with Art Bell"

15 posted on 06/29/2002 10:55:28 AM PDT by inkling
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To: rdb3
Either there were heroes on the flight, or it was shot down.

They can't have it both ways.

16 posted on 06/29/2002 10:56:24 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: rdb3
I'm saying we need to wait on the Press Release to know for sure........
17 posted on 06/29/2002 10:57:02 AM PDT by deport
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To: Lower55
I agree that it has to be "either/or," but who are the "they" you mention?
18 posted on 06/29/2002 10:57:22 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: deport
Fair enough.
19 posted on 06/29/2002 10:58:29 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
The Van Patton family?....They...
20 posted on 06/29/2002 10:58:57 AM PDT by Lower55
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