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To: rdb3
Either there were heroes on the flight, or it was shot down.

They can't have it both ways.

16 posted on 06/29/2002 10:56:24 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
I agree that it has to be "either/or," but who are the "they" you mention?
18 posted on 06/29/2002 10:57:22 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Lower55
Either there were heroes on the flight, or it was shot down.
They can't have it both ways.

If, hypothetically, the plane took a missle in an engine as the passengers were in a melee with the hijackers, would that make the passengers' actions any less heroic? Personally I don't think the plane was shot down. More likely it broke up in the air as a result of either overly violent maneuvering over the safe maneuvering limits or as a result of hitting Mach 1 in a powered dive. Regardless of whether it was crashed by a passenger, crashed by a hijacker, or shot down, however, the passengers' efforts' heroism remains.

61 posted on 06/29/2002 11:36:27 AM PDT by supercat
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To: Lower55
Sure you can.....first the cabin was stormed, but say it was 'unsuccessful'. Naturally, the plane would be shot down. Another non-story from the Demoncraps.
127 posted on 06/29/2002 1:06:45 PM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: Lower55
You can have it both ways - just because it was/may have been shot down doesn't mean the passengers weren't also doing their best to stop the hijackers.

And only libs could raise this issue while at the same time insisting the pilots shouldn't be armed and instead rely on having to shoot down any future hijacked flights.

195 posted on 06/29/2002 4:28:36 PM PDT by Let's Roll
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To: Lower55
WHY? What if BOTH did happen. What if the time lines coincided, They did rush the cockpit and took over the plane at the same time the decision was made to take that plane out of the sky. I don't think that Pres. Bush was on the phone with Mr. Beamer. Bush had NO knowledge of what was going on on the plane. All they knew was that there was a plane, who I'm sure was not responding to radio traffic, and was not diverting to land.
Let's just use our imaginations for a minute and say they rushed the cockpit and took it over, which would explain the Black Box recording, and just shortly there after the missile hits the plane (debris field 8 miles away ).


How then could any of the information been pass along if it all happened within a matter of minutes?
Once in the cockpit did they try and take the plane back or just crash it?
Did they then have any capabilities to radio anyone to inform them they had taken back the plane?

Imagine what would happen to the airline industry if the SHEEPLE were to figure out why sometimes F-16 "Escort" planes w/ problems aboard. What do they think the F-16's are there for? Do they think that the F-16's will somehow attach it's wings to the 747's wings on either side and then the F-16's will control the 747 and fly it away to safety? The F-16's are there for one reason only, TO SHOOT A PLANE OUT OF THE SKY that's it. And as ANYONE who fly's today needs to realize that, but not all do.

This is a PR persons greatest dream to have the ability to cover something more sinister with the a more beautiful truth, and have the evidence to back up the story. People on flight 93 DID rush the cockpit. But what happened after or during that is the Question.
261 posted on 06/30/2002 6:23:44 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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