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Saving the forests, saving our money
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 27, 2002 | Harry Browne

Posted on 06/29/2002 8:25:18 PM PDT by Alan Chapman

This past week, at least 200 families lost their homes in Arizona because the of the terrible forest fires there. Who is to blame?

Arizona Gov. Jane Hull and U.S. Forest Service chief Dale Bosworth condemned bad forest management by government agencies.

I couldn't agree with them more.

Notice that forests owned by private companies rarely have dangerous fires. Private forests usually are hurt only when fires in national parks spread into them.

But the problems aren't just with forest fires. Any government ownership is a recipe for disaster.

Have you noticed that almost all major pollution occurs on government property – in national parks, in its rivers, streams and lakes, and on its land?

Private-public comparison

For example, government forests in the Blue Mountains of Oregon are a disaster. Nearly all the seed-bearing pines have been destroyed, and insects have devastated the forest.

But next door is a Boise Cascade forest that's had almost no insect damage. And Boise keeps its forest replenished, to protect its investment. So its forest looks much as it did a century ago.

The same comparisons exist with mining or grazing. Private owners take care with their own lands to preserve the value for eventual resale. But when private companies lease government property, neither the companies nor the government managers have any incentive to protect the value of the property.

Government management

And government agencies pollute their own property.

Why shouldn't they? They're exempt from almost all the harsh, expensive laws the politicians impose on private companies.

From raw sewage in the lakes and streams of Yellowstone Park to Navy oil spills in Washington's Puget Sound to PCBs making fish inedible in the Shenandoah River, government managers devastate government facilities.

The EPA estimates it will take $280 billion to clean up all the sites the federal government has polluted.

All this devastation isn't an accident. Nor is it a case of hiring the wrong people to manage government property. It's the direct result of putting property in the hands of people who have no personal interest in its future value.

The most effective way to reduce pollution is for the government to sell its properties to private companies who will safeguard the future value – taking care because the company's future profits depend upon the value of its properties.

There's more …

And it isn't just lands the government should sell.

It owns trillions of dollars worth of assets it shouldn't have – power companies, pipelines, idle military bases, business enterprises, over 400,000 buildings, oil and mineral rights, commodity reserves and much more.

There's no reason for the government to hoard these assets. They can be sold to the public – putting them in the hands of people who will treasure them and use them responsibly and productively.

What to do with the proceeds

To keep the markets from being depressed, the sales should take place over a six-year period. I'd prefer that it be six days, but that would reduce the proceeds.

It's impossible to know how much money the sales would bring because this has never been done before. Estimates have ranged from $5 trillion to $50 trillion. But if the sales bring even $12 trillion, two thorny problems would be solved.

First, the initial proceeds could be used to buy private retirement accounts for everyone now receiving Social Security — lifetime annuities from stable insurance companies that have never broken their promises. And anyone between age 50 and retirement could get an annuity that begins paying at age 65. No retiree would have to worry about Social Security's future solvency.

Since Social Security would have no further liability to anyone, it could be shut down entirely – and neither you nor your children would ever again have to pay that fraudulent 15 percent Social Security tax. Anyone under 50 would save more from ending the tax than he'd give up in future Social Security benefits.

Second, the remaining proceeds from the asset sales could pay off the entire federal debt. You, your children, and your grandchildren would be free of the burden the politicians have piled on you – and the government's yearly interest cost would be zero.

Real reform

This is real reform.

It's the only plan that allows you to be free of political control over your retirement.

It's the only way that you, your parents, grandparents, children and grandchildren will finally be secure.

It's the only way we'll eliminate the terrible forest fires and most of the devastating pollution that ravages America.

And it's the only solution to the problems of Social Security and the environment that's consistent with a free country.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: libertarians

1 posted on 06/29/2002 8:25:18 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: *libertarians
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2 posted on 06/29/2002 8:25:29 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
Harry Browne make so much sense. The world needs to hear more from him.
3 posted on 06/29/2002 8:46:06 PM PDT by keithtoo
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To: Alan Chapman
"There is a choice," Bosworth said. "We don't have to have this kind of fire. We have to put active management on the land -- thinning the forest, getting (proscribed) fire back into the ecosystems, ... spending less money on paperwork, and more on getting people out in the field."

Sounds good, but getting it in the hands of individuals who can profit from good management might actually work.

4 posted on 06/30/2002 5:35:30 AM PDT by secretagent
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To: Carry_Okie
Bump
5 posted on 06/30/2002 6:44:20 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Alan Chapman
Sorry, if this is Harry Browne's position, he is a poor excuse for a libertarian.

Why?

Because there is no difference between ownership and control. Even if private landowners held ALL the land in title, civic police power through state regulation would still control it's use via an unconstitutional abrogation of both private property rights and the separation of powers principle.

So, what's Browne's libertarian alternative to that? Do you have one?

I DO. So, if you think the world isn't ready for a system like this, even with a gradual implementation plan, does anybody have a better idea?

Well?

6 posted on 06/30/2002 6:58:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Free the USA; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Libertarianize the GOP; freefly; expose; .30Carbine; 4Freedom; ..
ping
7 posted on 06/30/2002 7:35:19 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Carry_Okie
My you are a brave soul today!

I hope that you have your Kevlar jacket under your Nomex suit and fire hood! :)

So, are you going to murder some baby trees today and call this serial murder of innocent little trees, thinning?

Carry's bold alternative to the Bravo Sierra forest non management systems of today: (link)

8 posted on 06/30/2002 7:42:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly
ping!
9 posted on 06/30/2002 7:58:03 AM PDT by mafree
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To: Grampa Dave
So, are you going to murder some baby trees today and call this serial murder of innocent little trees, thinning?

Nope, I'm gonna be plopping blobs of recycled concrete into a ditch. Gotta set up to wash the excavator when it arrives. No more weeds, please.

10 posted on 06/30/2002 8:18:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Grampa Dave
I do get tired of all the whining and grumbling about this mess. It's as if conservatives think that the government should fix itself (as if that has EVER happened).
11 posted on 06/30/2002 8:20:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Government never fixes itself anymore than the Golden Gate Bridge Tolls will ever stop increasing to pay for the super elite board members to live regally in No. Kali..

Don't lose the faith. Conservatives and moderates are very hard to wake up to reality as it deals with these envirals.

I have the feeling after this summer with a lot more and worse fires as we get into the normal summer fire cycle, more people will be waking up.
12 posted on 06/30/2002 8:31:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: madfly
thanks for the ping
13 posted on 06/30/2002 8:48:04 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!
14 posted on 06/30/2002 9:10:06 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: madfly
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

15 posted on 06/30/2002 10:21:47 AM PDT by blackie
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To: keithtoo
He sure does make sense, I also don't think the Fed has any business being the largest employer in the USofA.
16 posted on 06/30/2002 11:46:07 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I also don't think the Fed has any business being the largest employer in the USofA.

The fedgov currently employs 2,700,000 people.

For comparison, Microsoft employs 65,000 people.

17 posted on 06/30/2002 12:45:30 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
Wow, I had no idea, that's a nice percentage of the populace. It would be fun to know how many are employed in State government, how many work for a company that is a government contractor, teachers, professors, etc. Could be as much as 10% of the overall population.
18 posted on 06/30/2002 1:01:31 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
It would be fun to know how many are employed in State government, how many work for a company that is a government contractor, teachers, professors, etc. Could be as much as 10% of the overall population.

A few years back, I was told that in excess of 55% of the US populous get more than half of their income from either Federal, State, or Local government agencies; from job salaries, welfare benefits, Socialist Security, AFDC, and other assorted programs. I've seen little to disprove that assertation.

19 posted on 06/30/2002 3:43:09 PM PDT by brityank
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To: brityank
I don't have a problem beliving that.
20 posted on 06/30/2002 7:47:29 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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